Mat Taib or Bust for BN in Hulu Selangor


April 10, 2010

Hulu Selangor will be BN’s if  Muhammad2 Taib is the candidate

by  Clara Chooi

If there is an absolute about the coming Hulu Selangor by-election, it is this: Barisan Nasional (BN) will cruise to victory if Tan Sri Muhammad Muhammad Taib is fielded as a candidate.

The ruling federal coalition lost the seat by a mere 198 votes despite winning all three state wards in Election 2008, prompting local leaders to pitch for the popular ex-Selangor mentri besar as the candidate to claw it back from incumbent PKR.

Some quarters claim PKR is praying that this would not happen, believing it would completely strip them of their chances to secure a crucial win on the April 25 polling day, after losing five federal lawmakers, one of which has caused this by-election.

However, this is an unlikely scenario as BN chairman Datuk Seri Najib Razak had already discounted the possibility, when he announced recently that the parliamentary seat would stay with the MIC.

In fact, contest will likely see MIC deputy president, Datuk G. Palanivel, who was the constituency’s former MP, fielded once again as a candidate. The four-term MP had failed in his bid to retain his seat during the tsunami of Election 2008 and lost to PKR’s Datuk Zainal Abidin Ahmad.

Interviews with the locals across the constituency the size of Malacca over two days, however, showed two glaringly significant trends: that voters on both camps, BN and Pakatan Rakyat, want Muhammad —or “Mat Taib” — as their MP, and that BN may face defeat if they put up Palanivel again.

While hardcore BN supporters are willing to cast a grudging vote for Palanivel if he remains their candidate, others feel their vote would certainly then go to the PKR candidate, who is expected to be Malay. It is doubtless Mat Taib, who was once the state assemblyman for Batang Kali, one of the state seats in Hulu Selangor, had left a lasting impression on the semi-urban constituents during his tenure.

The faces of villagers lit up with smiles at the mere mention of his name, and Mat Taib’s popularity did not just end with the Malay community or the older generation of voters.

In fact, it is also clear that when it comes to Mat Taib, or “Mike Tyson” as he is also known in UMNO for his rugged good looks, no one cared which symbol he represented — whether it be BN’s or any other party’s.

Hamzah Ali Bakat, 45, from Kampung Sungai Masin, who is short of hearing in one ear, said that it was Mat Taib who had helped him gain access to facilities for the underprivileged.

“It was under his rule also that I managed to get my four children to school for free,” he said. Mat Taib, he added, was not just a leader, but a rakyat just like everyone else.“He was so popular with everyone, everyone knew him, everyone liked him. He worked for us and that’s what we admired,” said Hamzah.

Another trader, Roshidah Mohamad, 46, agreed, saying that no problem was too small or too dirty for Mat Taib to handle. “The PKR government, they have taken over for two years now but I see no changes. The village of Kampung Sungai Masin floods every single time during a heavy downpour and they have done nothing. They come in their vehicles to look around but they never get down to see what is happening,” she said.

Cyber-cafe operator, Rozairi Mohd Zain, 31, said that he would look at the “skin colour” of the candidate before casting his vote in the coming by-election. “In fact, I will look at the skin colour of the candidate, not the symbol. If they field Palanivel, I believe he will lose. If it is Mat Taib, the BN does not even need to campaign at all — he will win without question,” he said.

Rozairi, who resides in Rasa, admitted that the PR government had done well for the people in its two years of rule but insisted that it was Mat Taib who had truly contributed to Hulu Selangor. “He brought so much development to the constituency — the factories mushroomed, the industries came here, the Perodua factory was built here… and the spill over effect is good. For business people like us, this is what we want to see — development,” he said.

He pointed out that the only reason why Palanivel had lost in the last election was because of “protest voters”, who were angry with the MIC man and BN, and wanted change. “It may likely happen again. Do not forget, people these days are not so stupid anymore, they will not buy into money politics or allow themselves to be convinced to vote for someone just because the person offered them rewards,” he said.

The peaceful town of Rasa has not yet been hit by the election fever but already constituents are calling for former MB Mat Taib to contest.

Rozairi agreed that the Malaysia needed a stronger opposition voice in Parliament in order to spur the “complacent” BN politicians into action.“We want a stronger opposition in Parliament — it cannot just always be DAP’s Lim Kit Siang yelling. With a stronger opposition, the BN government has to work harder to maintain their places.

“Look at how Najib is trying to bring reform to the people now,” he said, referring to the prime minister.Fellow cafe operator, Azlan Hassan, 31, from Kampung Sungai Kamin, said that Palanivel had caused voters like him and Rozairi to look at the candidate’s skin colour before voting.

“He (Palanivel) and the MIC did nothing here. They held on to the seat for four terms; it is too long. What have they contributed?” he said.

Meanwhile, in the BN stronghold of Sungai Tengi, more objections were also heard against Palanivel’s possible candidacy. Sungai Tengi UMNO branch chairman, Sapuan Bohari, said that the general ground sentiment, especially among the Malays, of Hulu Selangor, was the same — Palanivel had to go.

“We respect whatever decision the BN leadership makes but it is true that Palanivel has lost support. However, most of us would be willing to cast our votes based on the symbol the candidate represents and not who the candidate is.

“However, if Mat Taib is fielded, that is a different story. Even those in the opposition love him. And I am talking about even the Chinese and the Indians. When he comes for functions, they all rush out to greet him,” he said.

Branch committee member, Zainol Abidin Asngari, said that it would be a great disappointment to BN supporters and the Malay community at large if the BN leadership were to field Palanivel.

“We respect [their decision] and we will vote but we will not be happy. But if it is Mat Taib… even the fence sitters will jump off the fence for him. He is truly well-liked because he has proven himself before.

“And Sapuan is correct, it is not just the Malays who love him. The Chinese, especially the elderly ones, are all very fond of him. After all, he is a local boy,” he said.

Kampung Chuang Rasa penghulu Lim Kem Seng says that no candidate from PKR could beat Mat Taib in the election.

True enough, interviews with several Chinese locals at the town of Rasa, just outside of Kuala Kubu Baru, a state seat held by the MCA, proved that Mat Taib’s popularity indeed transcended racial boundaries.

An elderly Chinese man in his 70s who would only identify himself as Kau went to great lengths to explain just how much the people adored Mat Taib in the area.

“He was not just any politician — he really respected us and he listened to us. He helped us all and brought so much development to the area,” said Kau.

He related a personal experience when he once approached Mat Taib for help in the latter’s mentri besar’s office. “He saw me and called me to come in and tell him every single detail of the problem I was facing. And then he asked me — why aren’t all the other Chinese asking me for help, too? He said to tell my friends not to be afraid of him for he was a fair man to all the races, and he was right. And I told everyone about it, too,” said Kau.

Ironically, Kau, a retired soldier, was formerly a DAP loyalist. “But Mat Taib is good,” he insisted, despite knowing the party that Mat Taib represented. Kau explained that during his tenure as MP, Palanivel had hardly worked for his constituents. “What did he do? I hardly saw him here,” he said.

Kau continued, saying that he had lost faith in local politics now and had become a fence-sitter, waiting for either side to offer him rewards if he voted for them.

The Chinese community of Rasa in Hulu Selangor still favours Muhammad.

Kampung Chuang Rasa penghulu Lim Kem Seng, whom the PR government had appointed to the Village Development and Security committee , was also quick to admit that no PKR candidate would stand a chance against a Mat Taib candidacy.

“He was the mentri besar here before and he did a lot of hard work for the constituency. There is hardly any doubt that he would win if he were fielded.

“It does not matter if the PKR fields a big, strong candidate — Mat Taib will win. But if it is Palanivel, then I think the opposition stands a chance,” he said. Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin is expected to announce BN’s pick for Hulu Selangor on April 15 while the PKR will announce their choice two days before that.

There are 64,500 registered voters in Hulu Selangor, with 63,701 regular voters and 799 postal voters. Of the total, the Malays make up the majority with 34,020 voters or 52.7 per cent. The next largest group is the Chinese with 16,964 voters (26.3 per cent) following by the Indians at 12,453 voters or 19.3 per cent.

42 thoughts on “Mat Taib or Bust for BN in Hulu Selangor

  1. “In fact, it is also clear that when it comes to Mat Taib, or “Mike Tyson” as he is also known in UMNO for his rugged good looks, no one cared which symbol he represented — whether it be BN’s or any other party’s.”

    Now that’s something to think about!! Never knew Mike Tyson is known for his ‘rugged good looks’. He is known for many things but never ‘rugged good looks’. This one reduced his wife to a punching bag once at the airport and earned the ire of the sultan then.

  2. Obvious promotion for Mat Tyson to be named candidate. The writer has probably talked to some of Mat Tyson’s cronies, who of course would like to see him back so as to line their pockets. Mat Tyson was only for the UMNO cronies and some apple polishers from Gerakan, MCA and of course MIC.
    Bet you that Mat Tyson will not have it easy and could probably lose and not the way the writer had predicted.

  3. The writer has obviously been paid to write this little promotion for Mat Tyson (MMT) the former MB of Selangor who was forced out in disgrace. Yes he is popular amongst his cronies who have been sponging on him for years and would like to see him back again. In my humble opinion, MMT would do better than Palanivel, but his winning the seat would depend on how much he would dish out for the votes.
    I still think PR will retain the seat – despite the millions promised by the BN controlled Federal Government

  4. Yes, of course he is eminently qualified to stand as UMNO’s candidate for Hulu Selangor.

    A UM history graduate who lied in open court he did not understand english very well, and failed an english test ordered by the judge and who was also caught with millions of unaccounted for $ to buy properties in Oz and NZ beyond his known salary and declared wealth.

    Yes, certainly a choice UMNO candidate to bring back the good old days!!

    And Bean you are wrong. He was well known for his “rugged looks” and took much advantage of it as well. Just ask his contemporaries and close corporate friends.

    dpp
    We are all of 1 race, the Human Race

  5. It’s a bit peculiar don’t you think , Selangor labelled Msia’s most developed state have in the past two decades produced leaders the calibre of a ‘i no sepek ingilis’ , con artist and a 16 century reincarnated Javanese Toyol to robbed the state dry.
    …and the peculiarity , it seems , continues with PKRs stutterer at the helm!!

  6. He was well known for his “rugged looks” and took much advantage of it as well. – dpp

    Are sure it wasn’t the loads of bread , courtesy of taxpayers , like the ones confiscated down under was the fatal attraction.
    The 10 million divorce settlement after a quickie with the late Selangor sultan’s daughter seem to suggest so!!

  7. “And Bean you are wrong. He was well known for his “rugged looks” and took much advantage of it as well. Just ask his contemporaries and close corporate friends.” donplaypuks

    His ‘rugged good looks’ is measured in inches if that’s what you mean.

  8. Mat Taib = JAGUH KAMPUNG who played sexual hanky panky with Selangor Sultan’s daughter and caught by Australian customs with $$$ in a suitcase.

    If it comes to pass, UMNO nominating candidates with morally questionable characters to represent Malaysians in Parliament. (Reminder: declared corrupt Isa Samad of N Sembilan). Win election at any moral costs.

    What has Selangor Sultan got to say:

    Royal celebration for ex-Royal Son In Law winning Hulu Selangor)

  9. UMNO should submit Dr Mahathir to contest in Ulu Selangor, ‘cos he was once the longest serving PM in the World .

  10. Mr Bean,

    Yes, I took a quick visit to the thread as suggested and watched the video clip of Anwar’s interview in London. What’s amiss??

  11. President Bush when he was President used the ‘ikan billis’ dance to hypnotize and induce the inmates in Guantanamo Bay into a trance before taking down their confessions! I’m not sure if you could do the same with single mom La-di-la with yours.

  12. Bean
    Shrek never like economist. They are always like monday morning quarterback. Their favorite word is “if”. Shrek can also predict Malaysia’s economic growth and goes like this.
    “Malaysia will see healthy economic growth for 2011 IF the government institute a new stimulus program of say RM 7 billion. GDP will grow to 6.66% IF the government will relax its fiscal policies and allow for more incentives not only to foreign investors but also domestic investors. Rein in the UMNOputra SATAN (6.66) and stop the raid on Khazanah and MOF. The economy will flourish and be robust IF all government contracts are bidded on the lowest prices. Why give foreign investors the tax break etc, why not local investors.” So does Shrek sound like an economist?

    On Anwar at LSE, Shrek watched the video and Anwar lost Shrek somewhere after minute 2.

  13. Bean
    To become PM of Malaysia, turun padang in Malaysia. All these lectures at LSE won’t gain the votes. DSAI needs to work the Mak Ciks and Pak Ciks in the kampongs one kampong at a time.
    The Mak Ciks and Pak Ciks in the kampongs in Malaysia couldn’t care 2 hoots about the economy. All they want is development material and physical in their kampongs that they can associate with DSAI and PR.

    Ikan bilis dance can’t come close to Inul Pak Bean.

  14. Morality and integrity are non-issues when BN selects its candidate. Our people are so used to corruption, lying, bottom pinching and wife beating that they will vote for any scum as long as he acts as their sugar-daddy or santa claus.

    Tell me, in which other country can Najib become PM, or Isa Samad win a by-election or JJ be appointed Ambassador or Mat Tyson be first the choice UMNO candidate?

    And they preach about defending their religion to the last drop of blood!!!!

  15. UMNO-BN is on the upswing. It has been looking at itself since March 8, 2008 while PR and in particular Anwar and his PKR men and women have yet to get out of the euphoric state of mind.

    The change in UMNO and MCA leadership can be regarded as a process of cleansing. Najib is gearing up towards getting a fresh mandate and given his 68 per cent approval rating (according to Merdeka Center poll), he should have no problem in getting back his 2/3rd majority in Parliament which Badawi gave away. In addition, barring unforeseen developments in the world economy, our economy is on the mend because the stimulus package is working. A good economy is great for politics.

    New ideas as contained in the NEM, for example, and the re-imaging of Najib are getting kudos from Malaysians who are in the middle ground that supported PR on the 12th General Elections. It is going to be tough for PR to retain Hulu Selangor. MIC is not be sentimental; in stead, Samy must allow top BN leadership to decide on the one most likely to win. I suspect a deal will be done and Samy will be rewarded with a Tunship in June (?)

    Feedback from the ground is an important input. If PKR chooses Zaid–all indications are that this ex-UMNO crony and Minister from Kota Baru, Kelantan is their man–then Mat Tyson would be a better choice. Both Zaid and Mat Tyson have skeletons in their respective cupboards. If PKR loses, then Tan Sri Khalid has not done his job as Menteri Besar well.

    I am sure Frank has his take on this, one that will challenge my views of Selangor politics and the Hulu Selangor by-elections.

  16. If the people of Hulu Selangor do vote for him then they will represented in a manner in which they deserve to be represented.

  17. Thumb Logic,

    Is Zaid any better since both are from the same offshoot–UMNO? I am not sure. He is a carpetbagger and an opportunist. So, I am skeptical. This is because I am always suspicious of political types who use sophisticated language and raise our expectations, only to crush them once they gain power. I have seen that happen time after time.

    Just look at some of the PKR and ADUNs Parliamentarians. They jump at the slightest temptation and then provide the most ridiculous and convoluted explanations for frogging over to the other side. The young ones like the insecure Balik Pulau MP have become arrogant and hardly visits his constituents. They think they are God’s gift to our country and demand our respect, forgetting respect comes from competency, character and performance.

    Or for that matter, take Anwar Ibrahim himself. He spends his time traveling and lecturing abroad to cover his ass. He is the Economic Advisor of Selangor but he cannot manage his own party. He is turning out to be one big talker, preaching democracy when he is a recalcitrant when it comes to his own party matters. Action speaks louder than words.

  18. It will be a close fight in Ulu Selangor, although a number of pundits tell me that UMNO-BN is the favorite to retake this seat from PKR.

    Zaid is not the obvious choice, but let us wait for April 13, when Anwar Ibrahim will name its candidate. If Zaid is chosen, he will get a lot of support from civil society groups and Barisan Rakyat bloggers led by RPK.–Din Merican

  19. The change in UMNO and MCA leadership can be regarded as a process of cleansing.

    You must be joking!! Are you out of your mind???

    Voting Chua Soi Lek, the porn star in the hotel, as President of MCA as a process of cleansing ?

    Najib, with unresolved allegations of involvement in the murder of the Mongolian woman, Altantuya and the corruption scandals on purchase of jet fighters and submaries, as President of UMNO?

    You must be a blind support of BN or you are out of your mind or you only read Utusan Malaysia for your source of news!!!

    I thought you are a sharp observer of Malaysian politics, instead a blind one.

  20. Choi Soi Lek… cleanse what?? His groins???

    Najib? – Oh he has plenty to cleanse himself, even with the help of Rosmah’s bomohs!!!

  21. New ideas as contained in the NEM, -Ahmadi Hussein

    New in NEM????

    Go read PR’s policy statements a couple of months ago. 60% of what is in NEM came from there. In fact I made criticism of PR’s policy statements for lack of adequate details. The NEM is worse!!!

    The only thing NEW in NEM from the nEP is the last third alphabet in the acronym.

    For someone who had the balls to take on Terence Netto ( but then made you look look like a fool after that), your basis as per your posting here for your blind support of UMNO-BN has just crossed the border of ridiculousness.

    Plenty of “talk but no show” for your basis for your view that BN-UMNO is on the upswing. UPSWING ???

  22. My take on the Hulu Selangor is this:

    It will be tough call for PR to take this parliamentary seat. PR will have a very tough fight. Not because that BN is being cleansed by the election of a porn-star President of MCA and the elevation of someone with baggage of allegations of invovlement in a murder scandal and bribery scandals and with his association with Ziionist-run international companies to remake his image:

    (a) The 3 state seats covered under this Parliamentary constituency are held by UMNO-BN.

    (b) The extremely narrow win by the deceased PKR MP.

    Given above, PKR need not lose any sleep this seat falls to BN, whether it is be challenged someone from MIC or UMNO.

    PKr/PR has to give its very best shot to take back this seat for reasons given above.

    I would still support Zaid Ibrahim as a candidate for this parliament seat, to test the waters with regard to the Malay votes. Take it as a lesson for the next GE even if PR loses this one. And also it will help to iron out the rough edges in the collaboration arrangments between DAP, PAS and PKR, after the fallout from the prominent frogs (or toads) in recent weeks/months.

    Given the background of this constituency, I find it silly for Ahmadi Hussein to gloat or to spin why BN will win. If PKR had won this seat in the last election by say 2,000-3,000 votes, then there is serious worries for PKR should BN wins the seat.

    No brainer analysis from Ahmadi Hussein on this particluar by election.

  23. Concur with you Frank.
    Added to the mic’s misery and mca’s snafus, we have much infighting within the warlords. It will be good if this is played up.
    But Zaid may not be a shoe-in candidate.
    I think whoever gets a majority of the sizeable Indian vote will win. A local boy would be better, as he may be more amenable, approachable and able to emphatize with them

  24. Abul-bul,

    Your point is taken. When I served abroad one of my Heads of Mission who came from outside the system told me that he was not as mean as the Heads of Mission who came from the system. But that does not make what my Head of Mission did right. And you know that two wrongs do no a right make.

    As far as I am concern I am politically neutral. I do not oppose government policies per se. But what concerns me is that over the past three decades we have seen development linked to our race to realise Vision 20/20 at the expense of accountability and emasculation of the institutions of government. Just try to understand the events that are playing out in our Parliament and you will get what I am trying to say.

    Do not get me wrong. I am on your side. But I do not want my country to pay that kind of price for development. And finally, why are we in such a hurry to see physical development. Our population is relatively small and we should be more deleberate in our developpment policies. At the rate we are developing it is only a matter of time before we see overcapacity in the infrastructrue sector.

  25. La-di-la

    Here is an analogy as far as the voters in Hulu Selangor are concerned :

    A candidate is very hard working who is always around in times of sadness and joy.To quote a voter what the writer posted, “It was under his rule also that I managed to get my four children to school for free. He was so popular with everyone, everyone knew him, everyone liked him. He worked for us and that’s what we admired. “ OR “He was not just any politician — he really respected us and he listened to us. He helped us all and brought so much development to the area.” OR, ““He saw me and called me to come in and tell him every single detail of the problem I was facing. And then he asked me — why aren’t all the other Chinese asking me for help, too? He said to tell my friends not to be afraid of him for he was a fair man to all the races, and he was right. And I told everyone about it, too,”.

    Now take as given the above are the sentiments of the voters.

    If you are an urban and widely read voter and if you happen to know that candidate ( I don’t mean Mat Taib) is a PAEDOPHILE or known to have a perverse moral standing , would you still advise that person to vote for that candidate???

    There are sections of the Malaysian constituency, for their own selfish interests, who will sell even their children if someone with comes along and sweet talk to them and using $$$ to buy their votes, it doesn’t matter if that person has questionable moral values. Examples abound eg Isa Samad in N. Sembilan and the election by the stupid Chinese for a porn-star MCA President to represent themwho cheated on his wives and got caught.

    Where DO YOU stand: WOULD YOU Vote or support others to vote for that candidate because he/she is buying his popularity versus his known disgusting moral values/rectitude?

  26. To add.

    And meanwhile, what we have are smart-mouth “holier than thou” HYPOCRITES here, who whinge and whine about our politicians are corrupt, prone to bribery, and should not have been elected into Parliament, while having no qualms about these politicians just because of their partisan leanings.

    These armchair hypocrites are mirror images of the corrupt politicians themselves.

  27. UMNO is bankrupt, bankrupt of ideas and bankrupt of clean and fresh candidates. No choice but to recycle a man who lied to the late Sultan of Selangor after running away with the Sultan’s daughter. A man who readily confessed to the Princess he needed one more term to make enough money, a man who lied he cannot read and understand English. A man who don’t use banks in the 21st century and instead travel around with money in different currencies in paper bags. He is a perpetual liar
    Would you vote a confirmed and proven liar? Good luck Malaysia.

  28. Din Merican,

    You mentioned about RPK. That fat slob will support even a stone, as long as it is not from BN. RPK is not the arbiter of politics. You are better.
    __________
    La-di-la,

    Raja Petra is too modest to claim that he is “the arbiter of politics”. I have a lot of respect for Raja Petra who has guts and conviction. You should read his book, The Silent Roar: A Decade of Change, containing his writings. I wrote the Introduction to it. I stand by what I said about him. He is also a good friend with views which may from time to time differ from mine. That has never made any difference to me. But he and I share a common passion for our country, and want nothing but a people centered government that can make Malaysia great again.–Din Merican

  29. La-di-la

    Since you have already prostituted your minds to UMNO, there will not argue with you. You can’t argue with prostitutes, can you?

  30. correction

    Since you have already prostituted your minds to UMNO, I will not argue with you. You can’t argue with prostitutes, can you?

  31. La-di-la

    Some people act like pimps when they try to act as proxy to others, and some people simply prostitute themselves to others to win favours when they move around in sharing their ideas. You know yourself well with your association with UMNO.

  32. Din

    I refer to your response to La-di-la.

    It is hard to convince someone who has prostituted herself/himself to others, in this case UMNO, at least in their minds. You know, prostitutes, especially the females, make no qualms using foul language, even four letter words in their conversations, including referring to others a “a fat slob”.

    I use the term, prostitute, in a generic sense, an acceptable term in the english language that is not restricted to those who have to earn a living on the streets or as they politely call, “ladies of the night”. Japanese sometimes call them, “comfort women”.

    One does prostitute one’s mind to others,however much that mind is educated, in the same sense as one prostituting one’s body.
    ___________
    Frank, I do not mind if a person wants to display his prejudices and wishful thinking on this blog as long as she/he is not crude or rude. It takes all kinds of people to make up this world. –Din Merican

  33. Mr Bean

    Is there a word in the english language to describe an educated person who prostitutes their minds, to others.d At times, the body does follow the mind, ie social scientists call it Behaviour in response to Attitude

    My thesaurus failed me:

    Educated prostitute? Nah…

    Mental prostitute? Nah…

    Intelligent prostitute?…Nah..

    Unwitting prostitute? …Nah

    I have reached the limit of my vocabulary.

  34. Din

    I find it totally unacceptable and uncalled for under any circumstances for La-di-la to come into this blog for discussion and calling the lie that Altantuya is a “prostitute”. It is insensitive to the extreme, in my view

    How could La-di-la have perpetuate this lie. If La-di-la had labeled her as Razak Baginda’s mistress, I can tolerate that since this was admitted by Razak Baginda in court .

    Firstly, it is extremely unfair to the family of Altantuya and an insult to the dead woman’s memory. She was blown to bits by our Govt officials, with allegations of high level cover ups .

    But calling the poor dead girl from overseas , blown to bits on our shores , who is unable to defend her integrity as accused by La-di-la , a PROSTITUTE??? I cannot accept that. It is so repulsive. That is why I would use the same word on La-di-la in a similar context.

    La-di-la’s calling Altantuya a Prostitute impacts upon my sensibilities. I don’t know about others in here.

    I am angry,to say the least , coming from someone whom I have spent some bandwith to debate on other issues.I say again, La-di-la as a woman she claims to be,is sickening and repulsive

  35. Frank and to all concerned

    I knew it, i knew it. You all will be sharpening your knives on me on that word.
    You have the licence to allege Najib as a murderer. Repeatedly.
    You havent replied to my question that there is no case on Najib on the alleged murder.
    No one in their right mind wil believe that.
    Yet you trun around bty defending the woman.
    I am just using the words uttered by so many blogs and by Razak’s wife.
    Then they called her worse names than that.
    See the woods from the trees guys.

  36. La-di-la

    Now don’t come here and say you are repeating what others said.
    I am more concerned of what YOU SAID in this blog.

    YOU called Altantuya a Prostitute. That is repulsive to a dead foreign woman, murdered on our soil, who cannot defend herself here.

    You debased yourself and the respect of your family here.

    That is why I say you behave like a PROSTITUTE yourself and is like one by prostituting your mind to UMNO. YOU are a prostitute to UMNO in that sense.

  37. La-di-la

    Don’t act like a victim here. YOU called Altantuya, a Prostitute based on a lie of UMNO.

    I have NOT called Najib a murderer, have I? The issue I raised is not what I or others have said about Najib.

    This is about YOU.

    The issue I have with YOU is : YOU called Altantuya a PROSTITUTE.

    I have given my reasons why I would call you a PROSTITUTE in return.

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