December 4, 2012
Tunku A. Aziz: “The Opposition (can) play havoc with this country”
by The Malaysian Insider–December 3, 2012
Malaysians should not experiment with the country’s leadership by changing regimes at the next election as voting in the Pakatan Rakyat (PR) federal opposition will lead to destruction in the long run, a former DAP national leader has warned.
Tunku Abdul Aziz Ibrahim was reported by UMNO-owned daily Utusan Malaysia as saying the attempts by a group calling for a change in government regime was dangerous and could backfire, as he weighed in on a previous remark by Information, Communications and Culture Minister Datuk Seri Rais Yatim.
“If really love our country’s peace and unity, don’t misstep and give the mandate to the party that only thirsts for power and political interest.Don’t ever let the Opposition play havoc with this country,” he told the Malay newspaper in a report published today.
The former DAP Deputy Chairman who quit the secular party in May after clashing with party leaders over the BERSIH electoral reform rally on April 28 has been highly vocal and critical towards the Opposition PR especially the DAP, since his departure.
He appeared to continue his tirade against the PR pact, highlighting the loose Opposition alliance was only interested in grabbing power and was still squabbling on their choice of Prime Minister and other Cabinet positions should they win the mandate at the 13th general elections that must be called by next April.
He claimed that the pact had not introduced any kind of reform, even in the states they had wrest from the Barisan Nasional (BN) federal coalition in Election 2008.
“Think, what form of transformation and development have the Opposition done in four years ruling other than what has been done by the government previously?Among the ‘great’ things they have brought since governing a few states are only illegal demonstrations that end in violence, firing up the sentiments of Malaysians in all matters, allowing the interference of foreign nations and the politics of hate apart from taking praise for the Barisan Nasional’s efforts,” he told Utusan Malaysia.
“Malaysia is a complex country that is difficult to administer because it is populated by diverse races and backgrounds, what experience do they have other than criticising the government for 50 years,” he said.
Din Merican: the Malaysian DJ Blogger 
What! Tunku Aziz, you have gone overboard. You want the status quo, known for corruption and abuse of power. Najib is a puppet of Mahathir Mohamad.With the former Prime Minister behind him, Najib will create a failed state. His transformation agenda will benefit UMNO cronies and kaku ampus. Goolbuttock Singh and Mr. Bean who knows you well can bring you to a state of sanity.
Syabas, Tunku. You have spoken like a man. The Opposition is an unknown quantity. Why risk losing what we have built over the last 50 years by changing the government. Go for UMNO-BN, the real option. I am sure my soulmate Hussin will agree.
I expect to hear from Frank the Malay hater cinaman, Oouch Loki1, Orang Malaya, and others because I think Tunku Aziz is giving us good advice. Vote wisely, so UMNO-BN should be your choice.
Unbelievable – not so much he revealed who he really is but that he think he can continue this facade given that Mahathir is now revealed to be the real chairman of the recent UMNO meet, and obviously going into the next GE…
Endorsing Mahathirism? He destroyed his own carefully built, now obviously shown fake reputation for what?
I met my friend and colleague going back to my days in Bank Negara and Sime Darby Tunku Aziz at the Malaysian Integrity Institute forum yesterday. He was the keynote speaker on integrity, corruption and abuse of power. He spoke with conviction on the subject.
His message is simple, that we should be doing the right thing even when no one is watching. He also said that those who are entrusted with power should serve the people, that is they must be servant-leaders.
There must be transparency and accountability. He quoted examples drawn from his vast experiences in Bank Negara, Sime Darby, Commonwealth Secretariat, Transparency International, and the United Nations where he was Advisor to UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Ethics. He said that he is not a politician, but a Malaysian who has given his life to promoting good governance and fighting corruption.He joined DAP because he thought that its leadership would provide a platform for his advocacy of good governance, but he was sadly mistaken.
Running Malaysia is a complex business that required the cooperation of all stakeholders. Tunku Aziz made no bones about supporting the present regime which, he believes, is capable of implementing good governance practices. That is his choice and we too are free to choose.–Din Merican
Roughly translated,”budak” means “child” but not in this case as “lackey” is contextually more accurate.
Kadang tu penat baca the presence of barua UMNO here, Din. You’d think that with all that’s happening now they’d be a tad more insightful in their writings but all is lost, it seems. Ini lah yang dikata, “Ignorance is Bliss”.
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How do you fight them if you don’t know what they think and how they act? Know your enemy counsels the great Chinese strategist Sun Tze who authored a classic on strategy titled The Art of War. Engage them and win the war without losing the lives of your soldiers. Tak boleh penat. Kalau penat Cik Yong kalah. Thanks for your comments and welcome.–Din Merican
Budak UMNO,
You must practice reading with an open mind, not selective reading whereby you only read what you want to read and hear instead of reading to understand the full meaning the writer is trying to convey in his writing.
In Tunku Aziz case, he was a corporate leader thriving under BN rule with little interference till of late. He then moved to Transparency International and was critical of the government. His next move was joining DAP and lasted 4 years as Vice Chairman. I don’t know what happened to him or how his balls were squeezed by UMNO, he now becomes the trumpeter of UMNO just like Chandra Muzaffar. As such I have difficulty buying into what he is saying about status quo.
What does he mean by status quo? Is it retaining the set of thieves in BN and continuing the plundering of the country to maintain a crooked government or giving PR a fresh start to prove what a good government can do for Malaysia. After all in 5 years Malaysians can always elect in a new government if PR does not perform. God has said he will not change the future of a nation if they do not take steps or effort to make the change. Maybe you as Budak UMNO are a beneficiary of the spoils of plundering of Malaysia but there are thousands of Malays and Malaysians who are not getting their fair share under the NEP. For them it’s time for a change.
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Orang Malaya,
I know Tunku Abdul Aziz well. He is consistent when it comes to fighting corruption. At yesterday’s Forum at the Malaysian Integrity Institute he spoke forceably on the subject. He is also committed to good governance. He and I were working under UMNO-BN rule, but we never wavered when it comes to doing the right thing even no one is watching. I would describe his foray into Opposition as a kind of misadventure. I am quite sure that he regretted it. He is now back as a social activist.–Din Merican
Well, “should be doing the right thing even when no one is watching” – if that is what Tunku Aziz expect from politicians OF ANY SIDE, then all the more HE IS WRONG and no way deserving his reputation as a speaker.
NO modern political system that rely on leaders being “good”, will ever work. It simply impossible. What we can be designed is a system that rely on their professionalism, their accountability, and their skills and talent. The answer to UMNO’s “evil” is not PAS’s “goodness” – that is just about winning elections, NOT governance.
Tunku Aziz point of view is simply UNEMPIRICAL – without evidence it can even be possible..
Tepat sekali cakap Tunku tu. Kita bukan boleh cuba try macam tukar baju dalam memilih siapa yang memimpin kita.
Takkanlah kita nak memilih Anwar Ibrahim – seorang yang mempunyai isu moral menjadi PM kita. Cuba try-cuba try, negara dan masa depan anak cucu kita tergadai.
Mak Chik menangis dalam perhimpunan agong Umno baru-baru ini melihat betapa commitednya Najib dan pemimpin atasan benar-benar suci murni untuk mempertahankan kita Melayu seperti Din.
Syukurlah nampaknya Din dah memihak kepada Umno walaupun diserang oleh anti Melayu kat sini seperti Frank.
Budak Umno syabas. Anda seperti generasi baru macam anak Makchik sedar apa yang dibuat oleh Umno untuk kita semua.
Makchik dah berumur 45 tahun merasa hidup senang atas jasa Umno. Kalau kita diperintah oleh Nuar, cuma orang macam Frank yang suka.
Yes.. vote wisely, we should and we are all free to choose what we like. If you still believe that experimenting with the status quo is the best choice, go ahead.. but please remember the status quo within the rulling party it self will not let go their status easily.. there were many attempt to transform the party from within but so little success. Do we want to wait another 50 years before the real change can take place?
Another option is to experimenting with the new government. We have already been given a snapshot of what to expect with the new government if we look at how PR govern the 4 states under them. I think the result is commendable considering they don’t get enaugh support from the federal government. I cannot imagine what they could achieve if they got full support from the federal government.
So think wisely and Yes.. we should vote wisely..
Oh gosh, makcik is back.
“Think, what form of transformation and development have the Opposition done in four years ruling other than what has been done by the government previously?Among the ‘great’ things they have brought since governing a few states are only illegal demonstrations that end in violence, firing up the sentiments of Malaysians in all matters, allowing the interference of foreign nations and the politics of hate apart from taking praise for the Barisan Nasional’s efforts,” he told Utusan Malaysia.
How could he expect to compare 4 years of ruling to 50 over years of ruling? I don’t get people who do that kind of comparison. Is there like a different set of expectations for people who aren’t in the status quo? If we shouldn’t experiment with the changing of governments, then we might as well just admit we are a dictatorship country. What’s the point in Najib saying we want to be the world’s best democracy if his ilk don’t even believe in democracy?
If Tunku wants to talk about politics of hate, both sides of the aisle are guilty of it. Why just pick on one side? Why is he parrotting UMNO’s talking points anyway? I thought he’s better than this.
In all probability, Tunku Aziz could have twisted his tongue when he spoke of catastrophy should Pakatan Rakyat become the new government. The point is the opposition will even do better when they practise meritocracy to rebuild the country that has been flattened economically. Tunku Aziz should have taken the lead to talk about transparency and corruption where he is an expert in his line of work.
I suppose tengku will now say he was miss-reported. I think the DAP went too far and fast in getting him into the Party. They were over anxious to get a Malay into the fold of the DAP. So you see racial politics is still prevalent, even in the opposition. Lets all accept it and notwithstanding bring in the new opposition to PJ
“Vote your conscience” in the next General Election
I agree with Budak UMNO that a 5year-long experimentation is very risky for Malaysia’s future especially when we know the alternative to be tried cannot even work as a team to administer itself. I agree too with YM Tunku Aziz for maintenance of the status quo but with effective changes to introduce transparency and serious effort to fight corruptions.
Corruptions at non-political & lower levels are not the problems as adequate legislation & regulations are able to deal with their suppression but higher levels corruptions involving large political contributions/donations need to be appropriately legislated & regulated against as done in other countries.
YM Tunku Aziz’s credibility lately has been questioned by many, with the exception of those few of his colleagues who personally know him, as a result of him moving from being an impartial critic of the government while in the Transparency International to being a high level member of the DAP which then he left after about 4 years.
But it should be recognized that he would not get the full understanding of the nature of the DAP without being in the midst of it himself to get real personal experience which then qualified him to criticise the DAP with credibility.
Now he has fully understood the political reality and he is conscientiously sharing his factual knowledge & experience with all Malaysians who care to heed his valuable advice. It is up to us whether to accept this advice or not.
How would one be consistent in fighting corruption when he is supporting one? Is the perspective right?
With due respect to TAA and Dato Din, isn’t this another spin, using a reputable person like TAA. Not sure of the reason or reasons why TAA extended his service to this corrupted regime. Nevertheless, knowing how our political masters, who will go all out to lie and cheat to stay in power. It is not too difficult to speculate that TAA must be either blackmailed or paid. It may not be his personal doings but family. Blood is thicker than water and many a time you just don’t have the will power to fight.
And Oh..Makcik, welcome back.
I have been talking, for a long time, about the importance of appreciating our PEACE and STABILITY. Now the Tunku says basically the same thing… PEACE and UNITY.
But how do we change and correct ourselves? I think it is simple… Start thinking about a coalition form of government – one that takes in the views of many more than at present. Coalition means compromise… and compromise is the best guarantee of success.
Myanmar is taking its first steps in this direction and (so far, at least) it seems to be holding. Yesterday the news showed two previous political rivals in Kenya together after announcing they had decided to work in tandem for the sake of the country. See? coalitions and compromise are catching on…
People in the ARAB SPRING countries, please take note…
Any Chinaman who is steeped in the Classics will look askance at an old courtier who changes direction every which way the wind blows. Their model of (political) ethical and moral rectitude is the poet Qu Yuan, whose suicide in the 3rd century BCE is still celebrated as the ‘dumpling festival’ throughout East Asia and the Chinese Diaspora. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qu_Yuan
However, no One will lament this TAA, whose ethics and transparency is at best ‘pragmatic’. With friends like these, no one needs enemies.
Din :
Nak Tanya sikit. Tunku Aziz ni sembang kuat mengenai rasuah. I haven’t read or heard he embarked on a campaign to institute prosecution or attempt a citizens class action against any of the blatantly corrupt transactions such as PKFZ. All I heard from him so far are pompous sanctimonious sermons. This is guy is a lost cause and perhaps holding to an ideation of leadership by way of inheritance.
What do u say , given that he is your mate ?
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Tunku Aziz is not an agitator. I don’t think he has the energy to fight the ugly fight. It will cost a lot of money which he does not have. What about you, Horse? Will you initiate a citizens’ class action against, say, Pehin Sri Taib Mahmud. That guy might blow up your bees. Remember Bruno Manser of the Penans.–Din Merican
This piece is by The Malaysian Insider quoting Utusan Malaysia on what TA said regarding regime change following previous remark of Rais Yatim. The slant is why risk the future, so stick with the present government.
To be fair to this discussion the entire transcript of the forum ought to be made available by an external link, if possible, to weigh the subject properly. The 8- paragraph article is only a sliver of what transpired and to comment on them is a big disservice to the very idea of a balanced discourse unless to sensationalise is the purpose of this posting which I am sure is not the intent of the bloghost.
“Goolbuttock Singh and Mr. Bean who knows you well can bring you to a state of sanity.” — Gurdashan Singh
The frog prince who originally hails from Sg Petani, Kedah, from a dying breed of Anglophiles, only distantly related to the ruling Keday Royal House should have retired gracefully after leaving Sime Darby. He did not. Instead he threw himself to the deep end of the political pool forgetting that he’s no Michael Phelps. He soon found himself in dire straits and in difficulties. Goolbatok Singh saw what was happening, dived in and pulled the man out of the water, applied the ‘kiss of life’, giving him a good blow in the process. The frog prince was apparently caught in a compromising position from which he has yet to extricate himself. The rest is history.
The embrace was not dissimilar to the situation UMNO and PAS found themselves in, in the run-up to the elections. These two are locked in a deadly embrace from which neither could extricate.
What is Lok1’s advice?? A little KY should do the trick.
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Tidak tepat Makcik, menudoh Anwar Ibrahim tidak bermoral, sebab ramai dalam UMNO saperti Makcik berlandasan Fitnah…mungkin jika UMNO tudoh beliau Rasuah dan bersabit dalam Mahkamah, orang ramai boleh menerima…tidak baik memfitnah…akan di timpa Laqhnat !
Seperkara lagi, Makcik hanya pakai taram saje, menganggap Dato Din ‘ sudah kembali ka-pangkuan UMNO ‘ – bukan begitu, Kebenaran ada di-mana-mana, dan saya faham ramai yang begitu, ia itu mengikut kebenran dalam segala atau tiap2 Issue. Yang benar tetap benar, yang salah tetap salah….
Re Tunku Aziz, he has said many times he is not a ‘ politician’ , that’s the reason people do not like or appreciate him, they CANNOT bend him – so he seem to be jumping midstream all his life, all because he is an Intellectual who tries desperately to DEFEND his dignity & reputation, He left BN because of Dignity & thought he could be ‘ valued’ in DAP – he was disillusioned….
May be he is an ideallist, but the FEW in this world will defend Truth like him, nothing more & nothing less, but for the honour of this so-called human dignity. He says wipe out Corruption within UMNO – does it not reflect self faith & conviction….?
“I don’t know what happened to him or how his balls were squeezed by UMNO, ..” Orang Malaya
If you know him personally, you’d know that the man has a natural disdain for politics and politicians. And it came as a surprise to those who know him and to his relatives, that he saw it fit to throw himself into the eye of the political storm that was brewing in such a dramatic fashion. For a brief while he basked in the political limelight but only to fall prey to his own ego.
I really think he should spend his golden years catching butterlies in Cameron Highlands. If he’s lucky he might lose himself in the jungle of Cameron Highland finding company at last with Jim Thompson.
Tunku Aziz has proven his true colors and to me anything else he does not not have any credibility at all. He is hitting at DAP simply because he didn’t get what he wanted and sulking… he should just take a backseat in politics and not make a fool of himself like the other old man from Kerala.
Another one has gone to the dark side. I guess at his age, it is okay to advocate good governance to anyone who listens and then close his eyes when the government of the day OPENLY and right under his nose robbed the rakyat blind. It is okay to behave so at his age.
After all, who wouldn’t want to enjoy the final years after slogging all their lives amidst criminals who claim to rule with legitimate authorities. Life has been hard to Tunku Aziz, so let him rest and fade away.
My humble request is for this old man to do one last good deed for the people of Malaysia. Please do not ask the rakyat to stake their future and that of their descendants to the criminals called Barisan Nasional.
I am sure his religion, Islam, forbids a person to send another to harm’s way … and in this case, very slow death of millions of Malaysians, in the hands of Barisan Nasional.
Have compassion for your fellow Malaysians, Tunku! We already have one evil person called Mahathir. That’s enough for Malaysia!
Budak UMNO is a rising star and silly a leader of a failed party. After GE13 he will regret gracefully and beg for jobs. Now he is well paid.
Tunku Aziz has lost his marbles asking we retain BN as the government. The corruption index has gone worse than ever, and all we have seen are promises that have not been kept. As usual it has been the cake for the UMNOputras and crumbs for the rakyat. Najib asks for another chance. He had more than 3 years to put things right and to show positive change that would have indicated that he was serious. The way things have been moving, things will not change under the present government, even if we give them another 50 years.
If Tunku Aziz is the same serious corruption fighter he claims to be, then retaining BN in the next election is the last thing he should have on his mind.
All I heard from him so far are pompous sanctimonious sermons. – Horse
With friends like these, no one needs enemies – CLF
The frog prince was apparently caught in a compromising position from which he has yet to extricate himself. – Mr. Bean
Please do not ask the rakyat to stake their future and that of their descendants to the criminals called Barisan Nasional. – Fauziah
Budak UMNO is a rising star and silly a leader of a failed party – SABAHAN
If Tunku Aziz is the same serious corruption fighter he claims to be, then retaining BN in the next election is the last thing he should have on his mind. – NAVINDA
The Opposition is an unknown quantity. – Budak Umno…eh..WTF should that mean?
I was going nauseous reading the article and some of the comments fortunately the above comments saved my day.could this individual be suffering from ‘Dissociative identity disorder’?
Inspite of Dato’s endorsement of TAA it is difficult to visualise him as a person of extraordinary virtues. and retiring gracefully is not one of his virtues, not unlike Mahathir.
The ‘one million dollar’ question remains ‘if we don’t want change of government’ why the hell should we have elections? Makcik wants a Joker.
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Reeper, I don’t endorse anyone. I was just sharing my knowledge of Tunku Aziz as my old friend and professional colleague. We have different views on politics and other matters. But we have never allowed our differences to color and affect our friendship. We Kedahans stick together.I disagree with Mahathir on many issues,sometimes very strongly, but I have never failed to respect him as a friend of my family, my elder, and my Prime Minister for 22 years.–Din Merican
I think at the end of the day, Tunku Aziz was simply a Malay supremo above anything else. He entered into non Malay domain and got slighted when they wont give him what he felt was owed.
The concept of Malaysia never had a chance to sprout under such environment. Perhaps we could suppose that it was never the ideals that drove him to DAP; it was his own personal agenda, and hence ideals could be sacrificed and backtracking easily taken as there was no conscience or integrity to deal with anyway.
Hence, the desire to erase all such ideals he had espoused now manifests in his support for a regime corrupt beyond redemption. Tunku Aziz’s position is no different from most tribes championing a new government. If they dont get their way, it will be back to the old pastures..,…habits of backtracking and feeding on one’s excretion dies hard!!!!!
Whether it is DAP, PAS, PKR, SUPP, it dont matter. Malaysians will see more than their fair share of backtrackers, frog jumpers, liars, killers, murderers, stealers, thieves, and all the scumbags of society because we ourselves have not accepted that the future of our country is more important than the amount of dough in our wallets…..
Well guys….Just listen to what sakmongol gonna say……I rest my case……..
“Tunku Aziz’s crusade against PR in particular the DAP has received a wide berth in the mainstream media. He is docking at every jetty available even ones that are hastily constructed. Most of them in fact are- constructed by UMNO and its sycophantic and servile press.
Tunku Aziz is only useful as long as he continues to pour invectives against DAP and PR. Minus all that- he will not even be considered to become an UMNO member at cawangan level. Moreover and more importantly, Tunku Aziz, true to his nature, will consider an offer to become a ketua cawangan, an insult to a man of his stature.
And that was the reason actually that started Tunku Aziz on his current crusade. The man with an inflated sense of importance felt insulted that a 29 year old person conveyed instructions from the Party Secretary General.
What are we to do with Tunku Aziz’s tantrums? We must not take Tunku Aziz seriously over his crusade to demonize Pakatan Rakyat. It stems from his injured sense of overrated self-importance.
Here is a representative of the old world feudal order trying his best to recapture the master-servant social setting. The feudal lord from a world already lost, demands respect where respect must be earned and gets offended when a 29 year old simply did as he was instructed in a matter-of-factly manner.
He can’t survive in a political setting that eschews status-linked inference of leadership simply because; the modern progressive world does not recognize such inference. In a progressive society which Tunku Aziz and the Lords of UMNO do not understand, people are evaluated in terms of what they can do rather than in terms of who they are.
This is what UMNO and Tunku Aziz are not capable of understanding. The world does not revolve around UMNO or around people like Tunku Aziz. DAP does not in relation to him. He failed to adapt to the culture in DAP which is essentially egalitarian. Tunku Aziz would have been more at home, is a caste-system like setting like UMNO.
In such a world( ie a world disliked by UMNO and Tunku Aziz), any person or group is capable and able to compete for any role. Hence DAP, PAS and PKR in unity can compete to offer better rule to the people. Any person can compete and offer himself to become the elected PM of Malaysia. The reality is, if Najib can become PM, anyone can too.
The world that Tunku Aziz wills and demands is a world where only people with particular surnames and specific groups such as UMNO are fit to rule and govern.
That world is replaced by a newer world that accepts the principle which sociologists refer to as universalism. It an ideal worth supporting that says that anyone ought to be able to compete for any job instead of being restricted to do a specific job as in a caste system. Which is what UMNO wants to instill.
UMNO and people like Tunku Aziz have a monopoly over the job of ruling this country. Others are only capable of being minions and servants to Tunku Aziz and UMNO. And to preserve that monopoly, UMNO is willing to say that God is an UMNO member!
People who oppose a system that prearranges our roles in society therefore oppose UMNO and people like Tunku Aziz. Democratic peoples are for a world that holds the universal truth that it’s not a Tunku, or people with specific family names- the bin Mahathirs, bin Razaks, bin Onns, bin Najibs who are the only people who can govern and rule the country. Anyone can. Any party other than UMNO can.
Haji Hadi, Anwar Ibrahim, Mat Sabu or even a Karpal Singh. The fact that some of these names are treated with vehement objections does not remove the idea that anyone else other than the persons endorsed by Tunku Aziz or UMNO is all capable of governing Malaysia.
It follows then, the exit of people liked by Tunku Aziz from the seat of government, or the ejection of UMNO from Putrajaya, do not end our world. It ends only the world that Tunku Aziz and UMNO people know of. Good leadership does not spring from inherited status.”
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Sakmongkul did not say much about Tunku Aziz except that he is from a feudal class and cannot fit into DAP’s egalitarian culture. Then why did DAP make Tunku Aziz a member with high status in the party in the first place, knowing his background and status? Maybe, Looes74, you can answer this question, which the great SAK did not answer.
Tunku A Aziz like me is a man of a different generation. We are taught to treat people with respect. I too would feel offended if a 29 year old came to convey the Secretary-General’s decision to the Vice Chairman of DAP. That should be conveyed by LGE himself. Here I can say that my good friend, LGE who I respect for his good work in Penang, was not sensitive.
Furthermore, you don’t offer a stipend for Tunku Aziz with a Fellowship at the Penang Institute to compensate for his loss of senatorship. You do not have appease the Tunku. Only show some respect and common courtesy.–Din Merican
Something deep must really be hurting the one or the
other…. or both, it won’t be that easy to fathom, as we ‘outsiders’ are mere observers….
But i have to say this with all honesty that if he is the same man sakmongkol who has joined the DAP, i pray that DAP will strive to the fullest to retain this man, who to me is an epitome of brilliance, judging by the way he expresses his deepest thoughts….very sincerely DAP, do everything you can to retain this new member, perchance when you wrest power one day, he can inspire all & sundry to be true Malaysians in body, soul & spirit….
i am being sincere, no sarcasm intended – upon my conscience….
yes Dato’ I shouldn’t have said that you endorse (sometimes I have problem finding the right words) him and I’m also sure he has many admirable virtues. my critic is merely on his saying wonderful righteous things but at the same time promoting a regime that has evidently overstepped, betraying our trust in them, and which is in no position to renew itself or change its ways.
Malaysia a complex country with ……et etc etc therefore it needs a good leadership and Umno-bn is not doing the job well.
55 years is a long time – time for a change and let others have a chance!
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”? Voltaire
We may not agree with him but he has a right to speak his opinion. YM, although you with passion speak of fighting corrupt practices and you believe in this entity UMNO, we dont anymore. You may be the only one who is not corrupt . The rest we do not trust.
If one is not cut out to be a politician or countenance to play at politics, then one should not indulge in such activities or join any political party. It’s that simple. Some do unfortunately get caught up, but when they do extricate themselves – do it without rancor, yet maintain their sense of righteousness and virtue.
Being old and decrepit, does not mean that one can get away with folly of demeaning the entity to which one played a role, however insignificant. Self-worth is measured by stoicism, adaptability and forgiveness.
TAA deserves all the invective directed at him for being asinine. He took the road less traveled, but faltered and all his life’s work and accomplishment stands diminished. He pleads for the Devil he Knows..
The UMNO media will continue to give him the public limelight he would need before he fades into the sunset. The best thing to do is to lieave the guy alone. Being a friend for so many years it is understandable that the bloghost finds it hard to remove the leash from Goolbatok Singh & Cp. so they could work on him and sink their teeth (and bits of their anatomy) into him for one last time.
It was a grave mistake for DAP to make Tunku Aziz a Vice Chairman of DAP. DAP thought it got a good catch of someone with a high status. Unfortunately DAP did not delve deep into his background. There are numerous skeletons in his personal cupboard which does not make him suitable for a high party position. UMNO can easily dig up the dirty information and hang him out to dry. Yet uncharacteristically UMNO did not, which beg the question: was he a Trojan horse?
Is he feudalistic? He is aloof from his relatives and even from his many siblings which is so unlike a Kedahan. He is highly educated for his generation and achieved much in his career; maybe that partly explained his oversized ego. Or maybe it is partly due to his anglophile lifestyle which even by today’s standard among liberal Malays would still seem to be ‘distasteful’. He guarded his personal life jealously; even his siblings rarely step into his house. He should have left the country with Mr Bean, hence without having to put up living a guarded life in conservative Malaysia.
It was a mystery to his relatives that a person with so much personal baggage suddenly enter politics; with the high risk of subjecting his once closely guarded personal life to public scrutiny. Yet unlike all the other opposition leaders who are smeared, Tunku Aziz was not subjected to such treatment by UMNO. Why ?
Now, Tunku Aziz is the darling of the MSM which gives him much space taking potshots at the opposition. He talks fervourly against corruption but talk is cheap. Even Najib talks more forcefully against corruption than him. The intensity of Tunku Aziz’s attack will increase as the GE draw near…
Din,
He is entitled to his opinion and if he is in love with lifestyle of Mah Chot than it is his choice.
Mongkut should come back and drag his cousin to line up behind our kerbau. In case our kerbau cannot carry him on her back, we can allowed him hang on to her tail.
Dear Mr Bean, TA to me is past tense, normally I’d just spit,KY would be too smooth,takes away the tightness and therefore the pleasure,there must be some pain involve,but with those 2 Umno boys,the budak & Hussin, don’t use KY or spit,Gullbatok must give it to them hard,will probably knock some sense into them.TA is like a drowning man,will clutch anything to stay in the limelight, it maybe that he’s not being paid enough. Dato Din is always being a gentleman,you can’t fault him,and as for me,I shoot from the hip,go on Mr Bean,say it as it is,I’m sure you know TA better.My Bukit Aman boys are so busy right now,preparing for GE13,
This is what Hussin thinks, ” I agree with Budak UMNO that a 5year-long experimentation is very risky for Malaysia’s future “, what future is he talking about,it’s Forked,was Forked, and still Forked after 55 years,how does he think the scientist discover new discoveries, well stupid, they experiment, there’s no sure fire way of guaranteeing success, if ever we(PR) fail,them UMNO will rise again like the Phoenix, but to do that,Umno must die first, (alamak,sorry for those God’s chosen party & people)….Oouch!!!
Well, Lok1, scientists carry out experiments to prove their theories on positive things they expect to occur but not to waste resouces on useless experiments on subjects they already know. No need to experiment with PR as we know they are incapable of working together as a team because of their components’ incessant disagreements due to their diametrically-opposed ideologies and political objectives especially between the DAP & PAS. This experiment will fail and waste the country’s resources that have taken decades to build and accumulate. At the state level these experiments are not proving anything positive. Penang has no viable PAS presence in the state administration (Executive Council) to create any problem and so does not conclusively prove that the PR team can work together but even that, it has problems with the PKR Deputy CM. Kelantan is also not a conclusive experiment as PAS is practically alone controlling the state administration and so is Kedah. Hence again, it provides no proof that the PR components can work together as a team. Look at Selangor where it has problems with PAS member defection and it has other problems too in free water supply issue to the apartment dwellers and the unfulfilled promise of allowances to those “ibu tunggal”. Selangor does not consider its PR Manifesto as real promises which are binding but just empty promises to cheat the people for votes. How can we trust the PR with Putrajaya? Any experiment with PR to rule Malaysia will be very risky and dangerous to all Malaysians.
See, Lok1, there is no need for coarse language from me to put my points across even if they are only from my perspective unlikely to be agreed by all. The so-called civil society members must learn to be civil in every respect including the language they use for itelligent discussions.
There is absolute no question that Malaysians will be risking their country to a new team of leaders who may not have the experience that many think is critical for good governance and leadership to bring peace, prosperity and well being for the next five years. The damage done by Barisan Nasional to this country will take years to change, and some change may be irreversible, especially the exploitation of our natural resources and the environmental damage. The difficulty for the new leaders is how to implement a new spirit of nationalism, where Malaysians can work together to bring unity and prosperity to all irrespective of race and religious beliefs. The crux will be not only of how to eradicate endemic corruption, but also the ingrained racism and religious bigotry perpetuated by Mahathir against the minorities who have over the last thirty years or so, labelled as pendatangs. Malaysian leaders should put a finality to the interpretation of Article 3.1 of our constitution, and until the rights of all Malaysians under Article 3.1 are truly understood, we will never be united. And as pendatangs, the minorities will never get the sense of patriotism, so that onus is to grab, steal, and get as much as possible, send funds to a safe haven and then look to immigrate. Now the problem is this is not just the strategy of the pendatang, it is the BN leadership itself that have come to excel on such.
Given such circumstances, why should the average Malaysians not throw the country to the “dogs”, and hope for the best? Status quo means we are screwed anyway, so what does the average Malaysian has to lose but perhaps gain a little better governance from unproven leaders, that in truth, will have to learn how to steal if that is their cause? At very least, the stealing will slow down because they are not up to it like those leaders of the Barisan Nasional. For most Malaysians, our fear is not the small little puny rats of Pakatan Raykat, it is the giant land buayas of BN that we need to slaughter to save the country. Can you blame me for such thinking? Well all I know is that the average Malaysian is working their behinds off to make ends met, whilst those of Barisan Nasional have mansions, apartments and condominiums in London, Paris, New York, Montreal, etc just from the meagre government salaries…
The hard truth is that the Malays, being the majority voters will ensure another perfect win for UMNO/BN in the GE13. What choice do they have?? PKR with its liberal and pluralism ideology??…or PAS with its bashing agaiinst fellow Muslims??…or DAP with its own racist agendas??…So you see guys, whatever your reasons and argument about the ruling party, at the end of the day its their votes that determined who will formed the next government.
“So you see guys, whatever your reasons and argument about the ruling party, at the end of the day its their votes that determined who will formed the next government.”
Didn’t know you speak for all Malays, Jason. Did you pick this statement out from your backside? Anybody can say anything. We need hard, cold facts with NUMBERS.
A political scientist is certainly not the same as a politician. From my reading, a political scientist like any scientist will abstain from lying while a politician may deliberately lie in order to achieve victory.
That’s a quotable Quote, Encik hasan – you i presume must be a scientist who deals with precision. That’s the way to go….mate
Annizar…Sakmongkul was a former UMNO “gurkha” who was “dumped” by his supporters in Pekan, for sabotaging the party prior to GE in 2008, since he wasn’t selected as BN candidate for the state seat…He’s more of an opportunist in politics rather than a true patriot…I’m not surprised a man of his calibre joins the DAP.
Sorry my Dear Mr Hussin, your statement ” scientists carry out experiments to prove their theories on positive things they expect to occur but not to waste resources on useless experiments on subjects they already know.” well that’s your thought on that,which I think is very debatable,sorry if I offended you with my coarse language, it’s really on subjects that they think they know or suspect to,to find out they needed to further experiment,if your above statement is right most of the time,then we won’t be spending vast amounts of money to prove their theories,
Now do you know the real definition of Theorie???.I believe I am a much junior person than you less learned than you,but I think n know that I’m much smarter when it comes to these things.The experiment we would like to do with our current incorrigible Govt is that we know that they have Fork up big time,they are not even ashamed of what they and their children do,so blatant,are you that naive???
I advised you’d stick to your believe and continue sucking up the Umno’s Govt.If only you know my background,my in your face advice to Mahathir,without fear or favour,I’d suggest to him whatever I think it’s good for the rakyat,just as I’m addressing you,he calls me Johor,reference to the late DYMM Sultan Mahmood Iskandar’s clan,If I say that I know more than you,I’m not bragging,so my advise to you is to pray and hope that Umno is still relevant after GE13, Dato Yahya Jalil of Gerbang Perdana/Merung Mahawangsa,each time he meets me,he will address me…
Yaa Lokman,with the late Sultan Mahmood,I’m the one that’s tak makan saman with him,it’s facts and not bragging.Don’t believe me,go on find out…I’d say it straight and true.I’m not scare of anyone except Allah SWT,if I can live with a sadist and not cowed by Kebawah Duli,what is Unmo’s politician to me,I’d have them for breakfast then spit them out,that’s what my late uncle Major (RTD) Tengku Zaid has taught me, be true to yourself and only fear Allah SWT,the rest of your journey has been planned by him,all I have to do is tawakal and serah everything to him,we can propose but only he decides for he knows what is better for you.
Oouch!!!
@ Abnizar and @ Lok1 Oouch
I am no scientist. I am not a politician. Like donplaypuks I am not a member of any political party. Just a soul who had given up walking in and getting out from the same door from nine to five. Presently, spend most of his time working in a small field raising cattle, goat and fowl, and farming fish, vegetables and fruits, as inspired by a poem by R.S. Thomas, The Bright Field.
I have seen the sun break through
to illuminate a small field
for a while, and gone my way
and forgotten it. But that was a pearl
of great price, the one field that had
the treasure in it. I realize now
that I must give all that I have
to possess it. Life is not hurrying
on to a receding future, nor hankering after
an imagined past. It is the turning
aside like Moses to the miracle
of a lit bush, to a brightness
that seemed as transitory as your youth
once, but is the eternity that awaits you.
Lok1, I respect your stance as you have personal experiences which weigh in as the baggage that we all have to carry with us in the expression of our opinions & views. I have my faults too for which I must also apologise sincerely. Politicians all over are the same – they make the politics dirty and that include many Muslim Caliphs too, involved in their dirty politics for survival. Clean politics were those practised by the Holy Prophet – just look at Hudaibiyah Agreement initially objected by some of the Companions as bad strategy based on “poor” political considerations on the part of the Holy Prophet but look at how it later turned out with the musyrikin pleading for changes in the terms. Nowadays, admittedly we have no such things anymore no matter how we wish for it to change for the better. Our choice is only for the lesser of the 2 evils. So, you have your stand and I have mine; both of us are acting, in all sincerity, out of our own conscience. I have nil political baggage to carry around as I have never been a member of any political parties and will never be one especially at my ripe age now – but that does not mean I am apolitical.
pak teh @12:28am.
Yes people like Sakmongkol, no matter how articulate he may sound and persuasive as he wishes to be, to the discerning observers he has lost complete credibility as his words are derived from the inner selfish greed to serve his own personal interests. Good luck to the DAP which is desperate to erase its communal tendencies by accepting a basket case like this. At least YM Tunku Aziz went in to get a personal feel of the situation which later proved not to his liking but qualified him as a credible DAP critic with personlised experience.