Comey’s Firing Is—and Isn’t—Like Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre


May 11, 2017

Comey’s Firing Is—and Isn’t—Like Nixon’s Saturday Night

By Jeffrey Frank

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19 thoughts on “Comey’s Firing Is—and Isn’t—Like Nixon’s Saturday Night Massacre

  1. Here is another side of story from WSJ:

    “Beyond Mike Flynn and Carter Page, why haven’t we seen more leaks pushing past the original stories? Why have the leakers gone silent, unless they leaked everything they had? Indeed why hasn’t there been a mega-dump into the press by now of all the original NSA “raw signals intelligence” à la the Pentagon Papers?”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-james-comey-show-1494455612?emailToken=JRrycvhyYX6Th9wyaswg1FBtbKANBvTMTVTSIWGPIUjLqzmM/bP9m/ho2YLt

  2. Sad.
    But, he is the President who can hire and fire as he like.

    Cover up , up, and cover up!
    Insidiously, the establishments corridor of power are best at it.

    Trump is openly making a joke out of it…and let the lawmakers at Capital Hill to figure it out.

    Comey should have been asked to resign immediately after making the annoucement in reopening Hilary email case , just 2 weeks before the Nov. presidential election.

  3. I’ve always known Donald Trump is stupid but I didn’t realize he is that stupid. By firing Comey he has openly admitted of collusion with Russia. Trump has just accelerated his own demise.

    James Comey was handpicked to be the FBI Director by the Republican leadership as part of a compromise deal with Obama. That means the Republicans in Congress can’t afford to side with Trump on this firing. There’s no just cause for it. Everyone knows Trump did it simply to try to fend off the investigation into his own scandals. Everyone knows he did it one day after Sally Yates finally testified. And if the Republicans try to throw Comey under the bus, everyone will be reminded that Comey was their guy to begin with. The GOP will have to either come out against Trump on this, or stay silent and let the Democrats destroy Trump over it.

    How the Republican leadership deals with this is its own problem. Trump may or may not have managed to temporarily sidetrack the FBI’s ongoing massive official investigation into his own criminal behavior and Russian election collusion. But when the US intel community knows that it no longer has any chance of taking down Trump through official channels, then it no longer has any reason to continue sitting on the evidence it’s amassed for what would have been an eventual DOJ case. The intel community will begin leaking so fast and furious from so many places that Trump and his team won’t be able to crack down on anyone involved. They will provide evidence of Trump being so overwhelmingly guilty of criminal and traitorous behavior that the political pushback against him will be like nothing ever seen in the history of the US.

    Trump is toast. What Trump did to fire Comey was extraordinarily stupid, because it’s merely accelerated his demise – and now the media plays a more vital role than ever.

    • He is actually what he said about Comey– a showboat and grand-stander. America is losing its credibility with Trump as POTUS. Alexis de Tocqueville is turning his grave. Americans are naive to think that an insecure and egoistic businessman can be a good President. LaMoy, will Congress impeach this showboat in The White House? –Din Merican

  4. Russian collusion?

    You cannot find circumstantial evidence to suggest there is collusion between Trump campaign and Russian government. Do you believe the leakers who leak about Michael Flynn’s mere preparing the incoming administration for engaging Russia have since purposefully stopped leaking collusion information if there was collusion? If you believe the leakers have constrained themselves since then, then you might as well believe that pigs can fly.

    Try see if you suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome (warning: there is no cure because the syndrome makes you feel so good):
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/05/11/sean-hannity-trump-derangement-syndrome-grips-dems-in-wake-comey-firing.html

  5. This is what the Americans opposing Trump is doing.

    As we always knew he would, Donald Trump is trying to rip apart our country and our democracy. No matter what issue matters to you most – whether it’s health care, immigration, the environment, civil rights, or something else – it is under attack by Trump and his cronies in Congress.

    And that’s their plan. They’re hoping that by attacking every value this country cherishes, we won’t have the energy or the fortitude to fight him on multiple fronts. But we are going to prove them wrong.

    Before a busy weekend of town halls, we wanted to make sure you had all the tools to get the job done. This week, we’re focusing on Comey’s firing and health care.

    In a blow to democracy, Trump fires the person investigating his administration

    Trump himself admitted today that his administration cooked up a reason to fire Comey, telling NBC he was “going to fire him anyway” regardless of what his own Justice Department recommended. We need an independent, resourced investigation into the ties between Trump, his people, and Russia’s interference in our election. Read our latest policy brief here.

    What you should do: Tell your Senator we need an independent law enforcement investigation, like a special prosecutor, to make sure we get the bottom of this. Do it at town halls, office visits, phone calls, the works.

    Payback for TrumpCare votes

    Last week, 217 representatives voted to gut protections for millions of Americans with preexisting conditions, defund Planned Parenthood, and cut $880 billion from Medicaid for children, the sick, and persons with disabilities. We’ve launched The Payback Project, a website showcasing your amazing work across the country to remind these representatives of the cost of voting for TrumpCare. Check it out.

    What you should do: Register your events that target the 217 here. Use the toolkit to plan a die-in in your district. Tweet and post your photos and events for our accountability wall.

    Can’t get your Member of Congress to meet with you?

    Members of Congress are hiding from their constituents, and we’ve got new resources to help you out. We have developed a new Adopt-A-District Toolkit to help you out. If your MoC won’t face you, a neighboring MoC will. Check out the toolkit to see how.

    Support the Resistance

    First and foremost, we hope you’ll use the resources above to hold your Members of Congress accountable. If you’re also able to chip in a few bucks, we’ll be able to keep the Payback Project alive to serve as your one-stop-shop for the Resistance.

    When Trump fired Comey, when House Republicans voted for TrumpCare, they were betting that the resistance was slowing down. The Payback Project, and our work to push the Senate to hold the Trump accountable is a reminder that we aren’t tired, we’re angry—and we will not be quiet. Together, we will win.

    In solidarity,

    The Indivisible Team

    • Semper:
      The Indivisible SF/Bay Area has these events coming up for this month. Feel free to join us in whichever event at your convenient.

      Men for Choice, And the Women Who Love Them:
      Thursday, May 18 at 6 PM – 8 PM
      Tank18 1345 Howard St, San Francisco, CA 94103

      CA Democratic Convention Rally:
      Friday, May 19 at 12 PM – 3 PM
      Sacramento, California

      The Incorruptibles San Francisco Launch:
      Saturday, May 20 at 2 PM – 3:30 PM
      One Hallidie Plaza, San Francisco, CA 94102

      Caravan for Justice Lobby Day:
      Monday, May 22, 2017 at 11 am – 2 pm
      State Capitol Steps/south side, Sacramento, CA

      Nancy Pelosi at the Commonwealth Club:
      Tue, May 30, 2017, 12:00 PM – 1:30 PM
      The InterContinental Mark Hopkins Hotel, Peacock Court, 999 California St., San Francisco

  6. Din:
    The firing of Comey may have brought Trump one step closer to impeachment. The controversies surrounding his purported ties and his campaign’s alleged collusion with Russia have enveloped the entirety of Trump’s young tenure in the Oval Office, whether his name is eventually cleared in both issues or not. The firing of the man leading the investigation into those matters could serve as a catalyst for the public to demand a special prosecutor, urging Trump’s Republican colleagues on Capitol Hill to break away from his wishes and request an appointment to be made. If that happens, the path to impeachment could eventually begin.

    In fact, immediately following Trump’s firing of Comey, social media was ablaze with users demanding the official impeachment process begin sooner before later. The media can’t remove a president from office, nor can they bring about an effective impeachment. However, public disdain over the White House administration’s lack of transparency over the Russian investigation is only continuing to grow, while Trump’s approval ratings continue to suffer. Republicans in Congress may soon be handed an ultimatum from the constituents many of them have feared meeting with at town halls in recent weeks and months: demand a special prosecutor investigate the Trump administration and Russia’s meddling in last year’s general election, or face the wrath of the ballot come 2018.

    Nixon successfully fired the special prosecutor, but instead of halting the investigation into Watergate, it galvanized public support for impeachment and spurred Congress into action. So far, it appears Trump’s move may have had a similar effect. Using one law enforcement body or set of individuals to stop another from investigating presidential wrongdoing was the nub of Watergate and the ensuing impeachment proceedings. We do not know whether that is what is at issue here, but Congress has no alternative but to determine why Trump acted then and why he acted now. That should entail questioning under oath of any persons aware of or involved in the firing process and ultimately an accounting by Trump of his own actions,

    If Trump’s decision to remove Comey was at all based on information he had about the ongoing investigation, or if he in some way lied about his campaign’s involvement with Russian officials throughout the election, it could certainly be considered grounds for impeachment. Of course, an impeachment doesn’t definitively indicate Trump will be removed from office: Former President Bill Clinton was officially impeached in 1998 but was not removed by the Senate, and the same goes with former President Andrew Johnson. In fact, no president has ever been convicted by a Senate. Still, the process is a long and daunting one, which stains a president’s legacy and weakens his ability to serve as a unifying and respected leader.

    • LaMoy,

      Americans must act fast as Trump has a toxic effect on their psyche.Be a responsible global leader or remain a self centered nation. — Din Merican

    • Even at the advent of IT, It still took more than 10 years for the whole world to UNCOVER Iraq War’s WMD lies and fallacy. Since then, America’s Credibility has declined precipitately.

      Comey’s conduct during the last 10 days leading to last November US presidential election is clearly an interference to influence the out-come of the result. He should be asked to resign on the spot or if he had any dignity, offer immediate resignation.

      While there were allegations on Russia’s interference, there is no clear evidence, which when found, can justify impeachment, but may not remove Trump from the presidency, unless he resign.
      Trump is not Nixon.

      Undignified, Comey was fired on the spot, not being asked to resign first.
      ..and that is how democracy works, some may not agree. Trump has the power to hire and fire as he wish.

    • kllaukl:
      No one question Donald Trump has the presidential authority and power to fire James Comey. Trump has now admitted he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. Comey’s firing and the administration’s efforts to quell Russia investigations is a blatant obstruction of justice and a good enough basis for impeachment. The president is not above the law. If he has nothing to do with the Russians, why trying to quell the investigation?

      Trump appears to have been too naive to foresee that his firing of FBI Director Jim Comey would provoke outrage, the consequences of his action are starting to become serious as congressional Democrats are now OPENLY talking about impeaching him. And Comey is a Republican man. I’ve doubt that the GOP will come to Trump’s defense with effort.

  7. Lamoy,

    Trump’s behavior even after assuming office is unpresidential, much to most (incluing myself) desire/ disgust.
    That is DJ Trump, the elected President of USA.

    Even he is impeached, ( political not legal), he can choose not to resign, unless the Senate and the Congress move a vote of no confidence against him or unless he had found guilty to have broken the rule of the law for the alleged “obstruction of justice”.

    That left with the Americans and the people around the world, the questions:
    1 would the GOP be prepared to abandone Trump?
    2 would he proven and convicted for having broken the law with his dealings?

    In the meantime, the people will be living in uncertainties until the most powerful man in the world has found his compass on what, where and how he wishes to lead his country, much of its outcome will affect the rest of world– kllau.

    • kllau:
      You’re right. It’s quite difficult to impeach, convict, and remove a president from office – so much so that’s it’s never happened in US history. Two presidents have been impeached but acquitted; another resigned to avoid near-certain impeachment. So far, we’re not even remotely close to this politically charged process getting started for Trump, let alone actually happening.

      You’re also correct that impeachment, while it looks and feels a whole lot like a legal or judicial process, in practice it is dominated by politics from start to finish.
      That’s because, rather than being run by any courts, impeachment and any ensuing presidential trial are carried out by the House of Representatives and the Senate, which are partisan bodies.

      So, as long as Republicans control Congress, there will be a very high bar indeed for any effort to impeach Trump to gain traction – some incredibly damning evidence of some indisputably serious crime would likely have to emerge. And even if Democrats retake the House, they’d still need to come up with a case strong enough to win two-thirds of the Senate to actually convict him. Unless a party has enormous partisan majorities, a partisan impeachment effort is doomed to fail.

      I believe the recent developments present a good case for impeachment. In the US context, the framers of the Constitution set up the impeachment process to be a way Congress can remove the president from power: First, the House of Representatives has the power to impeach the president. A simple majority is necessary for an article of impeachment to be approved (each article lays out a charge against the president). Then the process moves to the Senate, where a trial will be held, with the chief justice of the Supreme Court presiding. Finally, and crucially, it takes a two-thirds vote from the Senate to actually convict a president on any count. Conviction on any count would then remove the president from office and put the vice president in power.

      Note that two-thirds of the Senate (67 votes) is a very high threshold that’s almost never achieved on any matter that’s remotely partisan. The framers did not make it easy for Congress to remove a democratically elected president from power. A president can choose to resign or not to resign before the impeachment. But once convicted, he/she would be removed from office and be replaced by the vice president.

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