16 thoughts on “Tun Mahathir Mohamad in London

  1. “…… self induced mental cage “. – Mariam

    Malays need to breakout of their politically induced mental cage . This cage is a trap created by Malay politicians generally but Mahathir is the main culprit. The trap is made up of religion ( Islam ) and bangsa (race ).

    By and large , Malays seem to be wallowing happily within this trap. Here , within this trap , they seem confident and happy and without a care in this world because this world that the Malays are trapped in is a homogenous one.

    But this Malay world is unreal because Malaysia is a hetrogeneous, diverse, multiracial, multi religious and multicultural nation. This is the real world for Malaysians. Hence, this trap blinds the Malays from seeing the diversity that is Malaysia.

    Breaking/climbing out of this trap is where the challenge is for the Malays.

  2. The true Malay dilemma today is that Mahathir has succeeded to implant inferiority complex into the mind of the Malay believing they cannot compete with the non-Malay on level playing field and, thus, created almost an entire Malay population on crutches. Adding with religious extremism, it is tearing the national fabric apart.

    Malaysia is, to use a slang often heard in the American military, FUBAR.

    But given some recent developments, I sense more and more Malays are waking up. I see a glimpse of hope for Malaysia.

  3. 1965 aspiration of two statesman of Malaysia. MM and LKY both have attained their life span achievement. LKY’s Malaysia for Malaysians (Singapore) and Malaysia for Bumiputras malays. LKY died as nobody billionaire and MM will die as somebody billionaire.

  4. The comment above from “pestach” is notable for a real Malay mind-set change.

    I always believe a nonagenarian, who is sparkling, eloquent, lucid and deeply committed to social/political cause and still pounding on in trying to bring change is a remarkable man. Dr Mahathir is an exceptional man. There are not that many living/retired politicians of his calibre, particularly from this part of the world. Even LKY was a walking dummy in his his penualtimate year befor his death. He was a broken man after his wife’s demise.

    It is pointless now to finger pointing people, accusing them of having this or that done wrong. The question is how to move forward as one people, as Malaysians, transcending racial identities?

    The opportunity and challenge lies in grooming the next generation. Get rid of clusters of race based schools. Have national schools where all race children can attend. This is a singular most way to provide a daily school life, where they learn together, intermix with each other, get to know each other, strike long term friendship – providing the pillar foundation for a cohesive Malaysian society. The teaching medium can be split in two some taught entirely in Bhasa and some in English. Chinese and Tamil (in Penisula Schools) can be taught as vernacular subjects. Where this is not possible for lack in numbers, language centres can be establisshed in clusters within specific locations (within States) for these languages to be taught outside school hours.

    Bahasa can live and thrive on its own without political agendas. Make it a requirement for a division three entry-point job in the civil service to have credit pass in Bahasa and English. As for business/self-employment sectors make it mandatory for a person applying for a trade licence or vocational licence to have Bahasa qualification, and if not, pass a Bahasa test. As for those who are already holding such licensces but cannot speak or write(simple) Bahasa , give them a grace period of 1-2 years to learn the language and then pass a test for the licensce to be renewed. This way, in time to come, all the Chinese, Indians and other non-Malays would be speaking Bahasa in a natural way like the Chinese speak Bahasa Indonesia in Indonesia (as Mahathir pointed out and is yearning)

    Transformation process has to have a target objective that is to make it an equitable society for all to have a fair share in it. It has to be visible too. The civil service, stat boards and GLCs should recruit many more non-Malays to reflect race percentages at national level.

  5. Hawking Eye: “Have national schools where all race children can attend. This is a singular most way to provide a daily school life, where they learn together, intermix with each other, get to know each other, strike long term friendship – providing the pillar foundation for a cohesive Malaysian society.”

    I couldn’t agree more.

    Rather than dismantling the current system, my suggestion for DAP and PKR is for them to include in their manifestos a promise to bring back English-medium national schools. These were the schools we were taught in, where we intermixed with each other, where we got to know each other and struck long term friendships. We, the commentators of Din’s blog.

    These English-medium schools will also provide Mandarin and Tamil as vernacular subjects. Malay will, of course, be compulsory as in our day.

    Let these schools compete with the others as before, on level playing fields.

    I truly believe it will not only be a vote winner, but will go some way to repair the racial distrust that has been inflicted on our children.

    And, for DAP to finally shed its Chinese image.

  6. @aitze:

    Hawking Eye: “Have national schools where all race children can attend. This is a singular most way to provide a daily school life, where they learn together, intermix with each other, get to know each other, strike long term friendship – providing the pillar foundation for a cohesive Malaysian society.”

    I must disagree. What you and Hawking Eye have suggested would be as draconian as some Ulama might want to have Madrasa introduced into all schools. It is just based on the simple idea of “don’t do unto others what you don’t want them to do unto you”. I don’t see any reasons why any political parties ought to fight for English-medium schools.

    Japan and South Korea succeeded without needing any English-medium schools. Why should there be a must-push for English-medium schools?
    Islamic civilization where much more advance at one point of time also.
    To me, the cause of layu-sian has nothing to do with the Malay language, but the political elite closing the minds of the Malays, Indians, and Chinese.

    I simply don’t see any reason why Malays could not excel in Math/Science, or Chnese couldn’t do well in the arts.

    • Katasayang, the whole idea is to find a way (without compulsion) to get children of all races to go to school together.

      Any suggestion?

  7. Single school for all is to attain a larger national objective – to remove isolationism and replace it with integration through intermix and bonding. The ulama component for the Muslim students should not be seriously affected as they can be taught Islamic studies additionally when vernacular subjects are taught for the non-Muslim students.

    Comparing Malaysia with Japan and South Korea is like comparing apples with oranges. Theirs is a cohesive society with single people, single language, single culture and so on predominantly. Malaysia’s is diametrically the opposite, a rojak mix of race, religion, language and culture. A particular language, by itself, does not accrue special attributes per se over other languages. The Portuguese, Spaniards, Romans and the Dutch ran empires in the bygone days – all without the English language. But the English were the most successful of them all with their own empire. But their success were due to many factors beyond language. Language was never the determinant factor for all of them. So it is with the Japanese and South Koreans. Their cohesiveness, nationalistic and team spirit, hard work and drive that make them very successful. A single language binds them all, no doubt.. Times are changing. They are sending thousands of their students to study in universities in America and the West in high tech sciences and humanities as well as master the English language.

    Preserve your language by all means but don’t get entrapped in it with blind sentiments. Learn anything and every thing from others that will bring one advancement, success and progress.

  8. @TLMan, @aizte, @Hawking_Eye,

    // What many of us say was only true in the 60s and 70s.
    Definitely! But, in short, I don’t have an answer either.

    Partly because I too could be biased. So, I must first tell my own experience, to declare how I could be biased.

    My grandfather has 8 children, over 20 grandchildren, and another 15 great grandchildren who grew up in Malaysia. Out of the over 20 grandchildren, only 3 of my mother’s children (i.e. my siblings) have entered the SRJK(C) system, although 7 out of the 8 uncles and aunts went through the Chinese school systems, and all of uncles and aunts have tertiary experience, except for the oldest uncle, who is being tasked to pick up grandfather’s business.

    Yet, today, 15 of those great grandchildren went through SRJK(C). Neither of my siblings, nieces nor nephews went through the Chinese Independent Secondary school system. So, I would suggest my family are no die-hard supporter of the Chinese school system. Neither of my siblings could agree on how we wish the system could take place going forward. But, I am the only one who suggested that I wish I could have gone through the Chinese Independent School system, mainly because I could do with some better preparation in Math and Science prior to college, knowing full well none of my primary school classmates were happy graduating from the Independent Secondary school system.

    So, here is my biased view.

    After meeting Dr Bakri in US 15 years ago, I am definitely for the idea of sharing space and increasing face-time with Malays. I never thought there could be other kind of Malays, especially the caring kind. I went to a sekolah menengah in PJ, and I have no Malay classmates from Form Four to Upper Six. I never had a close Malay friend.

    But, I am against throwing away a working system, in place of an unknown one. If I were to put on an imaginative thinking cap, I would suggest having school children going to different classrooms. There are a lot of common core-curriculum that could be shared. But, there could be a lot that could differ. Choices would

    I don’t mind suggesting that 50% of resources in Kuen Cheng primary school (one of the better run SRJK(C)) with a independently run SR. But, the system must allow 50% of the Victorian Institution opened up to other school systems. (You see .. I do have a grudge here 😛 I started my sekolah menangah experience 3 weeks late, simply because my father could not find someone high ranking enough to subsidize their minum kopi expenses, as what my father told me, as my grades could not be better.
    On the reason why I would suggest my mother-school should share their resources, … the answer is simple, sharing is the only way the Chinese could survive for another generation, before being ‘skinned alive’ by the next-generation Jamal Yunos.

  9. Katasayang, you went to the wrong secondary school. You should have gone to Bukit Bintang Boys Secondary School. Last year we celebrated our 50th year anniversary and there was a big turnout of students from the class of 65. There were Malays, Chinese and Indians and we still behaved like school kids without any hint of racial prejudice. We remained good friends even after 50 years and many are no longer residing in Malaysia but kept in touch through emails and facebook. for some of us the friendship extend to more than 60 years and we had lots of fun sharing our memories of old PJ, the school and teachers who made us into who we are today, color blind.

  10. Katasayang, My suggestion is not a replacement but an addition to the current educational system.

    And, if the Opposition were to adopt it as part of their manifesto, I believe that it would appeal to plenty of like-minded Malaysians of all races to vote for it. Imagine Malaysians voting for a party because of policy rather than because of race or religion. Finally, democracy in action.

    Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Malaysia can be saved by the ballot box?

  11. orang malaya: Bukit Bintang Boys School is a “controlled” school for me. Too-elite for the Kejenisan graduate like myself. That is a school my father could not find the right person to pay enough kopi-money to get into also. I finally got into Anak Sakai school close to Bukit Bintang Boys School. I have Prem from Malaysiakini as my senior Scout leader. I would say there is little prejudice or bad experience at all. If there were any issues, there was just a bunch silly push-over between ‘prefects’ and some ‘lepak-ponteng’ boys. Thinking about it, I am glad to have the not-so-elite experience also. Being anak-sakai, and having a bad reputation was fun. As Boy-Scouts, we can mostly do what we want to do then as our scout-master ran away with the money we gave him to order scout uniforms for us the first year I have joined the club. We then get to do everything ourselves, without any adult supervision. I get to study no Math and Science for three years, and for SPM, we get to have a physics teacher who could not tell the difference between

    All the smarter Malays would not need to attend Anak Sakai school during my years. There was simply no Malay classmate for me after Form Three in the top class. There are a few that technically should not belong to the top class, and they too get to be promoted to some better run Malay only boarding schools 2 months into Form Four.

    Aitze: I genuinely think Uncle Lim Sr could be more progressive than us. Yes, it would be nice if the Melayu could be not so Layu on saving their own butt. Alas, .. what can we say. Apparently, my maternal great-grand father tried in his lifetime for ourselves. It didn’t go too well. Life is not fair. But, that doesn’t mean we couldn’t fight for it.

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