Datuk Seri Wan Azizah: Report proves Anwar’s innocence


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Beh Lih Yi

Jul 28, 2008

The medical report which concluded that Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan was not sodomised proves that PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim is innocent, said his wife today.

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wan azizah interview 270308 01“It’s a confirmation that it’s a conspiracy all along as this report goes to prove Anwar’s innocence,” PKR president Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail told Malaysiakini.

In view of this, the opposition leader urged the police to investigate why there is an attempt to defame her husband instead of probing the sodomy allegation.

Anwar could not be reached for comments but he is expected to hold a press conference at the PKR headquarters in Kuala Lumpur tomorrow morning.

The former deputy premier has maintained that he was innocent of the sodomy allegation – a charge reminiscent of what happened a decade ago when he was thrown out of government and into jail.

Conflicting medical reports

The medical report – where the examining doctor found no evidence of sodomy – was issued four hours before Saiful, who was Anwar’s former aide, lodged a police report on June 28 that he was sodomised by the opposition stalwart.

It is believed that Saiful went to two different hospitals that day.

He first went to Hospital Pusrawi (Pusat Rawatan Islam) in Jalan Tun Razak – a government-linked Islamic medical institution – at about 2pm.

According to a copy of the two-page medical report obtained by Malaysiakini yesterday, Saiful went to the hospital complaining of ‘tenesmus’ – a medical term for difficulty and pain in passing motion.

He was examined by Dr Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid, the medical officer on duty.

The doctor said that the patient had alleged he was assaulted by the intrusion of a piece of “plastic” in the anus.

Mohamed Osman, according to his medical report which was recorded at 2.14pm, found “zero active bleeding”, “zero ulcer or pus”, “zero tear and scar” in Saiful’s anus.

In his concluding remarks, the doctor advised Saiful to go to a government hospital so as “to rule out” assault and sodomy.

At 6pm, Saiful went to Hospital Kuala Lumpur for his second medical examination. He subsequently lodged a report against Anwar at the police beat in the hospital premises.

Hospital Pusrawi is carrying out an internal investigation on how Saiful’s medical report was leaked.

Saiful could not be reached for comment despite numerous attempts.

47 thoughts on “Datuk Seri Wan Azizah: Report proves Anwar’s innocence

  1. One PI on the run. Now, one doctor on the run. What is next? Gosh, what has this country come to? Its so sad that one tyrant who would broach no opposition emasculated our vital institutions and now we are paying for it. I pray for the times before the tyrant came to power, Hussein Onn, Tunku please lead us again.
    __________
    yh,

    Many Malaysians share your sentiments.

    Tun Hussein Onn once told me in 1986 at a respected mutual friend’s residence that he would live the rest of his life regretting that he had appointed the man you called “one tyrant” as his successor. He then had two other candidates then and they were Tengku Razaleigh and Tun Ghafar. He made his choice and lived with his decision. The Tunku (refer K. Dass’ “Tunku Tapes” ) did not have anything complimentary to say about Mugabe’s friend in Malaysia. It is ironic that “one tyrant” too chose the wrong (?) man as his successor in 2003.

    Like the Prince of Denmark once said via Shakespeare of his beloved country, we too can now say that the state of Malaysia is rotten! But we have an opportunity to reverse that with Anwar Ibrahim in charge of our national ship. We must stand with him and take on elite gangsterism.—Din Merican

  2. I’m sorry but how could the medical report “prove Anwar’s innocence”? He has not been charged with any crime!

    For someone to be charged with a crime, a crime must be shown to have been committed. The medical report shows no crime has been committed

  3. “hussein onn, tunku please lead us again.” yh

    I don’t know about “leading us again” but they sure are turning in their graves right now!

  4. Boleh percaya ke sumber tu? Mana pulak dia boleh dapat report2 tu semua. Hmmm.. Tunggu je lah masa dekat mahkamah nanti, sekarang nak kecoh2 pun tak guna.

  5. If it is true that the medical report exists showing a lack of prima facie evidence….” President of the Bar Council.

    Prima facie evidence?? Are you joking?!

    In a rape case, rape is not rape if there is no evidence of penetration. Never mind the issue of consent! So what ‘prima facie evidence’ are you talking about, woman??

    There is no evidence of a crime. Period.

  6. This was posted by Anonymous at Susan Loon’s blog:

    Anonymous (14:21:4smilies/cool.gif :

    Susan,

    I would like to write the following statements in the name of GOD whom I believe.

    I am a goverment doctor in the rank of consultant working in hospital Kuala Lumpur. I know personally the doctors who examined Saiful on that day -28 June 2008.

    The so called medical report mentioned in the NST is a fabrication or imagination by the UMNO paper. There is no such medical report submitted to the polis yet.

    When examine Saiful, the specialist could not find any signs of Saiful being sodomised. Saiful was very cheerful, unlike real sodomised patient who will usaually very sad and disturbed.

    Saiful was subsequently admitted to the ward and observed for a day.
    He was completely well in the ward and not emotionally disturbed.

    Please let RPK know of this.

    Thanks.

  7. Having a period is not a crime! Unless you are man!

    To really unwind, the situation, a crazy idea is for all ministers to resign from the cabinet, leaving BadawiTaik as PM and KJ, Kallikari as the cabinet. Establish a joint parliamentary committee to oversee the next general elections in 30 days.

    Those Ministers with shit on their hands and Police crooks will have their day in a “rejuvenated” court of law. Alternatively, establish an Amnesty and work out the details with the Joint Parliamentary committee.

    We can hang everyone of them, but we can hang the baddest first from the oldest tree at Padang Merdeka!

    I’d love to see BasawiTaik hanging by his balls!

  8. Throughout this whole episode of the accusation against Anwar and the obviously biased handling of it by the Police, we have heard many comments from the civil society. Generally, most expressed their concern and some their disgust at how the matter has been handled. One group, however, has been quiet and has not made their stand on the matter. This group is the ulamaks and the muftis. Other than the Mufti of Perak and Perlis, I did not read any comment from the rest. I may be wrong, if that is the case I stand to be corrected.

    Now that the doctor’s report is public, is it not time for our ulamaks and muftis to come out in the open and state their stand. Or are justice, fair play, democracy and freedom of speech virtues outside the realm of Islam ? If it is not, should not it be the ulamaks and muftis be the ones coming out and crying fault ? Are our ulamaks and muftis reserved for the “tengok anak bulan” for fasting and eidul fithri ? Are our ulamaks and muftis only interested in telling the common man (gender neutral) the demands of religion are restricted to prayers, fasting,zakat, and haj ? No wonder Islam is considered by many as outdated and religion of the past.

    It is time for the ulamaks to claim their rightful position among the civil society. If they actually believed (as what they teach us) that they are responsible in carrying forth the torch of the religion, should not they reflect Islam for what it truly is?

    I like to challenge the ulamaks and muftis in this country (including some of those in PAS who have remain mysteriously quiet) to come out in the open and state their stand regarding this sodomy accusation of Anwar. The Muslims especially those that listen to the ulamaks and muftis deserved to be lead in the right path. If not these so-called learned people, should count themselves as the main fodder for the fires of hell.

  9. Uncle Bean

    The President of the Bar Council was forced to make the statement. She thought using legal jargon will pacify the general public not knowing the general public also took up law as part of the Univ program of study.

    PM Badawi now have shit on his hands. In the light of the medical report, I don’t know why he’s not coming out with a Press Statement. He was quick to defend Najib so now get Alblur to call the top brass of PDRM E4, E5 and the Directors CID, Public Security etc etc excluding the IGP and put a stop this Police attempt to frame Anwar. The top brass of PDRM should all be given a show cause letter on why they should not face disciplinary actions.

    PDRM must produce Shitful from their protective custody and brought in front of PM. PM have to ask Shitful if he was really sodomised. This should be done in front of the Council of Muftis, and trhe Acting AG will then file charges. Get this out into the open.

    Otherwise PM Badawi should resign. Don’t wait till 2010. At the same time fire all Cabinet members beginning with Alblur.

  10. I know what we can do with the Ulamaks.

    Bring Inul, the Supertar, and give her prime time with all the Ulamaks. Make sure you have buckets ready so there’ll be minimal cleaning up to do! 😦

  11. Bean is right, I agree, what is there for Anwar to prove his ‘innocence’ when he has not been charged with any crime.

    They simply can’t pin him down! I am interested to see what they are going to do with Saiful.

  12. Do you honestly think the ulamaks will come up with an unbiased view? This is next to impossible given their state of mind. Just like Tunku Aziz they have long teamed up with the devil in order to keep their periok nasi clean and full. To borrow MGG Pillai’s famous one-liner, “they know which side of the bread is buttered.”

  13. Dear semper fi

    Your post on July 28, 2008 at 4:20 pm, ” ….. PM Badawi now have shit on his hands…. ” refer.

    In medical terms, to have shit on the hands means the hands must have directly come into contact with the asshole. I doubt the person’s hands were anywhere close to the asshole.

  14. Salak says,

    “I’d love to see BasawiTaik hanging by his balls!”

    You see, in law we have the ‘presumption of innocence’. This is only a rebuttable presumption i.e. everybody is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

    [Nothing to do with Sifu’s butt though. The thought does not attract me. It may, Shrek. I don’t know. He is living in the gay and lesbian capital of the world. We gotta ask him].

    Wishful thinking though it appears to be i.e. hanging Bola-wi by his nuts, the presumption is that he has a couple for us to hang him by!

  15. Salak says,

    “Bring Inul, the Supertar, and give her prime time with all the Ulamaks. Make sure you have buckets….”

    By all means bring all the buckets you want but that does not mean there will be any deposit since you are talking about guys way into their 60s (Sorry, Din Merican). In addition to Inul Daratista shaking her booty, you’ll need a year’s supply of Hustler magazine with the courtesy of Larry Flynt to make it happen.

  16. “Saiful was subsequently admitted to the ward and observed for a day. He was completely well in the ward and not emotionally disturbed.” wrote an anonymous writer on a blog. Mr. Smith asked that this fact be conveyed to RPK.

    Having lived in the United States for more than a decade, I assumed the introduction of the penis into the anus or mouth of the other person is nothing like a “carnal intercourse against the order of nature”. Otherwise Bill Clinton would have had a handful some years ago! Penetration would have been sufficient. Consent from Monica Lewinsky would have been irrelevant – and you don’t need the likes of Augustine Paul to tell Bill Clinton that.

    Malaysia’s Penal Code

    “377A.Carnal intercourse against the order of nature.

    Any person who has sexual connection with another person by the introduction of the penis into the anus or mouth of the other person is said to commit carnal intercourse against the order of nature.

    Explanation

    Penetration is sufficient to constitute the sexual connection necessary to the offence described in this section.”

    ————————

    So here is my question to Mr. Smith.

    In view of our Penal Code 377A, how would Saiful heard singing away like there is no tomorrow while in hospital be relevant to prove anything?

    What we need is the original medical report written by the physician immediately after examining him. In this particular case, the medical report is to disprove that a crime has been committed. Usually it is admitted into evidence to prove a crime has been committed – not so in this particular instance. But in a criminal trial, the medical report is hearsay unless the maker appears to testify in court and in which case it is his testimony that constitutes the evidence and not the report. The report may be used for memory refreshing.

    Without the doctor i.e. the maker of the report, the report is not worth the paper it is written on!

    What would be the purpose of admitting the report into evidence? To show the doctor has a beautiful handwriting??

  17. By the way, will somebody ask Lim Kit Siang to propose in Parliament that 377A of the Penal Code be amended to allow for “carnal intercourse against the order of nature”.

    Is there any sense in not allowing since the entire adult population of Malaysia is guilty of “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” at one time or other in their lives – married or single, heterosexual or gay.

  18. As much as i adore this lady, i could not agree with her on this. The report does not say that Anwar is innocent. Sorry Azizah.

    The report simply says that there is nothing unsual in Saiful’s ass to suggest that sodomy did occur. It does not does not claim that sodomy did not occur. It also did not suggest that sodomy did occur.

    So based on this medical report, we can’t say that Anwar is innocent.

    Let me put it in a different way, so that some of you may understand better. Let’s imagine (for argument sake), that the report claims that there is a injury to Saiful’s ass, can we then claim that Anwar is guilty ? Based on this sweet lady’s argument, you would have to say yes, (hey you have to be consistent here, since the above is true).

    I would still argue that , Anwar is still not guilty even if they find something in Saiful’s ass. The medical report only says that there is an injury to his ass, it can not conclude that sodomy did occur,
    perhaps self inflicted (copied from Mahathir’s idea). Do you see the point that i’m trying to make.

    You can’t conclude anything from the medical report. End of story.

  19. Mr Bean, you said:

    377A of the Penal Code be amended to allow for “carnal intercourse against the order of nature”.

    Is there any sense in not allowing since the entire adult population of Malaysia is guilty of “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” at one time or other in their lives – married or single, heterosexual or gay.

    – I agree, this whole thing sucks! Yes,
    377A of Msian Penal Code is long overdue for amendment. May I suggest you put forward a proposal to YB Lim Kit Siang for his attention and action?

    Frankly I am fed up of this UMNO government imposing upon themselves our ‘moral guardian’. Those hypocrites are a despicable lot, practising double standards – they’d kill for sex, having gala time behind closed doors with their maids while wives are sick and/or away overseas!

    My opinion is that whatever happens behind closed doors between two consenting adults is very personal, private and should not be a subject for public discussion. This is basic human rights.

  20. Common lah Dude Cerosky, what is your point?

    Your logic is so amateurish and deceiving. The example you gave to enlighten the readers is like comparing apples with oranges.

    First, the saiful bloke claimed that he had been poked by an “important person” with a plastic object, hence his complain of tenesmus. From his statement it was non consensual and from the last I heard an unwilling victim is not an easy victim. That aside, examination found no evidence of anal injury, tear, pus etc, etc- all pointing to the fact that it is not consistent with sodomy. Period.

    If the Dr. who wrote this report would give testimony in an uncorrupted Court of Law, his testimony would have corroborate with DSAI’ claim of innocence and enough to render this case “moot.”

  21. Mr Bean,
    Yes, the maker of the report must testify in court that he is the maker of the medical report. But I disagree that it is not worth the paper it is written on.

    Let’s assume the doctor has gone into hiding. (Only in this country the innocent hide from the police while the guilty is provided police protection).

    The deputy IGP has admitted that the doctor has been interrogated by the police and he had written the report after examining Saiful.
    The police cannot deny this fact in court, unless they want to lie which is a norm in our country.

    Therefore, an element of doubt is created (that Saiful was not violated) and on this ground alone Anwar can be acquitted without this defence being called.

    Either way the report , with or without the doctor’s testimony in court, favours an acquittal.

  22. Dude Cerosky,
    The Police, AG and Saiful (plus Najis & gang) have NOT been able to prove that Saiful’s anus was abused (and with the latest leaked medical report backing it up further), and you still believe that Anwar is not innocent (guilty?) of sodomising this piece of shit. In the civilised world (not here in Malaysia, apparently) one is innocent until proven guilty but you choose to go on believing that ‘the report does not say that Anwar is innocent’ about Anwar – Anwar is not innocent or Anwar is guilty?

    We CAN conclude that Anwar IS INNOCENT, until and unless the monkeys can prove that Anwar is guilty, not because we have a bunch of monkeys making all kinds of accusations. The medical report simply helps reinforce Anwar’s innocence.

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  24. Shitful, if you have problem shitting, Shrek can help. Shrek have a boroscope in Shreks tool box. Shrek uses this boroscope to look at hard to get in places.
    Shrek guarantees to clear the clog so Shitful berak ada senang and kentut bunyi garang. You will be like a kancil with turbo and big exhaust

    Shrek specializes in lube and boroscope. 10-4

  25. All being said, it is imperative that we all agree that unti now, no charges because there is no proof.

    The situation here is that they are prolonging this issue for a reason, that is to buy time. They need this because as long as there is reasonable doubt there will be people who shall be confused.

    Stick with “Innocent until proven guilty”, will be fair to all. The only problem is, some people, for their own sake wants to believe that is true, and nothing else matter.

    Its always the consequences as well as the repercussion when and if the truth ever be reveal.

  26. Dear Barry & Freedom,

    I think we could not come to terms on this issue because i’m looking at a broader perspective, while you guys are not.

    If all the sodomy/rape case is dropped because the doctor could not find any medical evidence such as bleeding or injury, then we are in deep trouble. Should this be use as rule of thumb ?
    What if this is cited in court in a different case, where an actual rape did happen.

    Guys, i honestly do not believe this allegation as much as you do. But we have look at the fact and
    how it may effect us later.

    So Barry, you claim the a person is innocent until proven guilty, couldn’t agree with you more.
    But who is the innocent one , the rapist, or victim.
    Imagine that this is any other case.

    I’ve made my point. If you still don’t agree, so be it.

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  28. “Either way the report , with or without the doctor’s testimony in court, favours an acquittal.” Mr Smith

    The first medical report is hearsay. So is the second. Surprise? Both the persecution as well as the defense would not be able to admit either or both into evidence if the purpose is to prove the truth of its contents. The maker or makers must be in court to testify.

    When makers of those reports testify in court, it is their testimony that is evidence and not the reports themselves. They remain hearsay.

    In civil proceedings both reports would be admissible into evidence but not in criminal proceedings.

    When I say the first medical report is not worth the paper it is written I do not mean the contents are not true. Often heresay evidence is true and accurate but the law of evidence prohibits their use if the purpose is to prove the truth of their contents.

    Only statute can allow its use. Otherwise it has to fall within one of the exceptions under common law. Neither applies in this case.

    The maker of the first medical report is missing and assuming he cannot be found then we lose one very important piece of exculpatory evidence. That does not make Anwar guilty of the crime if he were to be charged.

    The second physician would be called as an expert witness and asked for his expert opinion. In the hands of an experienced counsel for the defense, under cross examination the truth would come out and he would have to lose his license.

    But you’re right. It is for the prosecution to prove the guilt of the accused and not the accused to prove his innocence.

    With the medical report and the testimony of this witness it appears there is a prima facie case Anwar would have to answer. The trial judge would have to call for his defense.. Does that mean it would lead to a finding of guilt? Not necessarily.

    “But I disagree that it is not worth the paper it is written on.” Mr Smith

    Your opinion and my opinion don’t matter. It is what the rules of evidence say that matters. Hearsay evidence when relevant can be accurate and true but unfortunately there is a general prohibition against the admission of this kind of evidence at common law.

  29. Guys,

    The medical report if admissible into evidence is only one piece of evidence. In the end it is the totality of the evidence and the veracity of the evidence that matters.

    If justice is served by a mere report, then we do not need judges, lawyers nor courts!

  30. Dude,
    You ask who is the innocent one. Well, in this case, Anwar has been accused by this young punk and the entire govt machinery, and as far as I am concerned Anwar is innocent unless they can prove his guilt. What this medical report shows, is the complete opposite. Now, I am working on the basis of innocent until guilty, and this medical report certainly does not help prove his guilt but on the contrary. There are simply too many gaps/holes, plus it doesn’t help that I don’t believe in the police, AG and judiciary. Plus that Anwar is the single greatest threat to UMNO, enough to make the monkeys shit bricks.

  31. “If all the sodomy/rape case is dropped because the doctor could not find any medical evidence such as bleeding or injury, then we are in deep trouble. Should this be use as rule of thumb ?”

    I have a question for Dude.

    In a case of rape, what do you need to prove?

  32. “If all the sodomy/rape case is dropped because the doctor could not find any medical evidence such as bleeding or injury….” Dude

    I have a question for Dude.

    In a case of rape, what do you need to prove?

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  34. Mr Bean
    Dude won’t accept the Medical Report showing no entry. Guess Dude will only be satisfied if he personally had inspected Shitful shithole. Dude has been putting up all kinds of objections and reason on why the Medical Report cannot be accepted.
    On one breath he says he is not an UMNO supporter and on the other hand he is defending the allegation by Shitful. Not sure where this Dude stands.
    Shrek thinks Dude is a trojan horse. 10-4

  35. Shrek,

    I think the real Trojan Horse would be unhappy to hear you compare him with Dude! The Trojan Horse has a purpose. It started its life as a wooden horse. Now it is a computer virus. Wooden horse or computer virus it has a purpose.

    This one keeps shooting in all directions and often ends up shooting his own feet.

  36. dah letih dengar cerita ni. Pihak kerajaan perlu memberi perhatian lebih kepada isu pembangunan dan kestabilan ekonomi supaya rakyat tak lagi terbeban dengan segala masalaah kewangan. medical report dah keluar, polis tak payah buang masa buat kerja ni. banyak lagi kes jenayah yang tak terbendung dan diselesaikan. Fikir2 kan lah……

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