RCI on Sabah IC Issue: It is all legal, says Mahathir


January 18, 2013

RCI on Sabah IC Issue: It is all legal, says Mahathir

by Koh Jun Lin@http://www.malaysiakini.com

Tun Dr MahathirFormer Prime Minister Mahathir Mohammad said there were indeed Filipino immigrants given citizenship during the period he was Premier, but insisted that everything was above board.

“Malaysia accepts foreigners to become citizens provided that they meet certain conditions. Many of them in Sabah were not there for a day or two, but 20 or 30 years and can speak Malay. They have the right to be citizens,” he said at a press conference today.

Citizenship-for-votes scheme

The long-serving premier was commenting on allegations of a citizenship-for-votes scheme in Sabah that supposedly occurred in the 1990′s, when he was Prime Minister.

Witnesses at the Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI) investigating the matter had Megat Junidimplicated Mahathir’s close associates in the operation; his Political Secretary Abdul Aziz Shamsuddin and then-Deputy Home Affairs Minister Megat Junid Megat Ayub (left).

However, Mahathir denied that the issuing of citizenship was meant to install a BN-friendly state government, as individual voters had the choice of who to vote for, and some supported the Opposition.

When it was pointed out that the operation took place just two weeks before the 1994 state election, Mahathir said: “Whether that is coincidental or deliberate, I wouldn’t know, but it is within the law.That it happened just before the election does not mean it is against the law.” He also claimed that the first Prime Minister, Tunku Abdul Rahman, had done worse by giving citizenship to one million unqualified people in peninsula Malaysia, and lamented that no one had made it an issue.

Mahathir added he had yet to be subpoenaed to testify at the RCI, but is willing to do so if called.

32 thoughts on “RCI on Sabah IC Issue: It is all legal, says Mahathir

  1. Tunku Abdul Rahman gave shelter and later citizenship to Cambodian muslims who were being persecuted by Pol Pot, even then they were small in number. There is now a thriving Cham community in Kulim, Kedah and in parts of Kelantan.

    Our first Prime Minister did that on humanitarian grounds because he was a man of compassion. Mahathir did it in exchange for votes. Remember what Mahathir at the height of his arrogance said about the Vietnamese boat people. So let us be clear about the difference between the Tunku and Mahathir.

    Yes, Mahathir will be prepared to appear before the RCI if called. He might not even be called because he is a protected UMNO specie, and even if he is, he will probably say,”Saya dah lupa”.–Din Merican

  2. The Malaysian Insider comments:

    Getting Malaysian citizenship cheaply

    Former Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad today explained why citizenship was given to illegal immigrants in Sabah, an issue being investigated by a Royal Commission of Inquiry (RCI).

    Dr Mahathir said the process was within the law as the immigrants had been in Sabah for decades and spoke Bahasa Melayu.

    “When I was Prime Minister, I was in power to determine the implementation of government policies.The government received foreigners to be citizens if (they) fulfilled certain conditions, furthermore those who are there are not one, two days but already 20 to 30 years and they speak in Bahasa Melayu, have the right to be Malaysians,” he said at a press conference here.

    “So the problem is when there are people who are tidak senang (unhappy) when there are some who become Malaysians although those individuals have already long resided in Malaysia, that is what causes problems.”

    That defence is weak, especially when those who have testified at the RCI say they were ordered to issue citizenship and receipts for blue or citizen’s identity cards.

    An official accused the late former Deputy Home Affairs Minister Tan Sri Megat Junid Megat Ayub of ordering the National Registration Department (NRD)’s Sabah branch to issue temporary documents to allow immigrants to vote in a 1994 state election.

    But what is most shocking is the attempt to draw parallel between his government’s action and those of Malaysia’s founding Prime minister, Al-Marhum Tunku Abdul Rahman Al-Haj.

    “One should also look back and remember that Tunku Abdul Rahman was worse than me, he gave one million to citizenships to people who are not qualified and not even tested?”

    “Why is it when he does it, it is not wrong, and when I do it, it’s wrong?” he asked.

    In the run-up to Merdeka in 1957, Tunku’s Alliance government ensured that non-Malays who resided in Malaya had a right to citizenship, which was agreed by all including the Conference of Rulers.

    The thing is this, Tunku Abdul Rahman did not give out citizenship to subvert the electoral process. He gave it to those who had stayed long enough in Malaya to be Malayans.

    Now that might also be Dr Mahathir’s defence but it flies in the face of the testimony given thus far. A Malaysian citizenship is not something to be simply given except those born here or elsewhere with Malaysian parentage.

    Anything less than that for electoral gains is a cheap way of winning. And a betrayal of the Federal Constitution, no matter the excuse of time in Malaysia or knowing Bahasa Melayu.

  3. Citizenship goes by Constitution which came on Merdeka; NOT BEFORE. This differentiates what Tunku did………simple and period.

  4. This moron is a traitor to our nation. Nothing he says is worth mentioning or quoting anymore. Lesser mortals would have gone to the gallows for an offence of treachery. That is the only punishment he deserves for betraying the rakyat’s trust.

    And in spite of all these guffaws he still has the cheek to smile and to continue to fool us. No wonder people like the idiotic Sharifah Jamban Miskin go berserk.

  5. Am waiting for bated breath as when they will start blaming anwar
    Pro umno blogs have already started doing it

  6. The witness had already testified that they did not follow procedures and there was no proper documentation, some did not even apply. Its was an attack on the State of Sabah – it violates the Malaysia Agreement because Sabah had no say who entered their state.

    It was covert subversive treason.

  7. Dato,
    I remembered Prof. Ungku Aziz once said that when students cheated during their exams then the “nafkah” they earned then would deemed to be “haram”. UMNO won elections after elections especially in Sabah,through cheating means. what do the UMNO ulamaks have to say about this? And this Mahathir fellow never find it fit to repent.
    _____________
    My Economics Professor is different from Mahathir, although the latter is of his generation. Ungku Aziz is a Renaissance man, an intellectual and a role model for those of us who were his students at MU in the 1960s.–Din Merican

  8. Mahathir is going to go down in Sabah as their No. 1 terrorist – Sabah’s Osama Bin Laden, Hitler, Slobodon Milosevic and Radan Karadzic – that is what it he – terrorism..

  9. Shame on Mahathir,

    He hit Tunku below the belt when Tunku is now 6 feet under.
    What Tunku did was all transparent, what Mahathir did only came out in RCI.

  10. Dont forget that Mahathai is born of a mamak from Kerala, and this species of craetures posses a twisted brain to cheat and lie , at btime will even prostitute their female gender for money. So what do you expect from this vile schemeing animal. His days are numbered

  11. The culprits are all Muslims. Muslims are the ones all Malaysians should worry about and for, they have demonstrated an unholy willingness, whilst in power, to sell the nation’s birthright for their bowl of pottage, now. They have not shown any concern for the consequences of this rape and greed. We will reap
    what has been sown, and pray that it would not be bitter for the generations to come.

    The very able and qualified intelligence ones were and still are chased out of the nation with crass rules, regulations and actions, to be replaced wholesale with flood of less able.

    The lack of a ‘national spirit’ or ‘jiwa’, is palpable evident today, everywhere. My friend and I didn’t feel that way in the 60′s or the early 70′s.

  12. I am immediately reminded of Lance Armstrong. Yes, he deceived the cycling world and in the end he was deceived by his own deception. The trick is threaten all around you and if possible corrupt them. Then deflate the education system and produce people who are less claver than you. Then you will be king and all will think highly of you because they do not know better. And yes, comparision is odious because it is only by comparison that you can show that some one is up to no good.

    This is a bittter lesson for all of us. We must immediately resorot to policies that will ensure that this nation will Race To The Top and not produce citizens who will do anything to own and control the people of this country. We must strenghten our institutions of Government and those Constitutional Office Holders must learn to say no even when the the most profitable answer would be a yes. We have lost time. Our peers in the 60s are now above us and I am afraid that we do not do something to address the present situation our peers now will be ahead of us in say ten years.

    And by the way those Indians and Chinese who were already in this country before 31st August, 1957 were granted permanent residence status under the negotiations for independence. Subsequently, those who qualified were given citizenship. That is is the constitutional process. You cannot be made a citizen of any country without first qualifying for permanent residence status unless you are born there.

  13. Mahathir got it wrong when he drew a parallel with the Tunku granting citizenship to Chinese and Indians. The point is that it is part of the agreement with the British that citizenship be granted for those non-Malays who had and were residents at the time of Malayan Independence. The Tunku did not simply grant citizenship like what Mahathir did.

    Just because the exposure is out, Mahathir has to justify his past actions. He had been silent as a mouse when the issue was brought up. Mahathir used the apparatuses of the state, namely NRD, Immigration, EC , the PDRM and the JPM which were all under his care then to achieve his evil ends. This is treason and tantamounts to selling the country.

    The illegals in Sabah were not residents at the time of Sabah merging with Malaya to become Malaysia. This is the difference. Mahathir granted citizenship in return for votes. Most of the Filipinos who were given citizenship in the 1990s were just in Sabah for a few months not 20-30 years as claimed by Mahathir. They could not speak Bahasa and definitely that not fluent Bahasa as claimed.

    What’s more, these illegals were granted citizenship based on directives of Mahathir’s close aides i.e Megat Junid and Aziz Shamsudin. Worst still, they did this operation clandestinely and in secret. Why this operation is conducted in his political secretary house and not in the NRD offices is clear for all to fathom.

    In fact, the officers were ordered to issue the ICs. No one else knew about this operation until it is being exposed by the ex-Immigration and NRD officers in Sabah. These events happened just on the eve of the state elections. Some of them did not even apply for citizenship but were given. What a shame ! There is no honour in winning the state elections based on these cheats.

    Mahathir tried to deflect the hot issue and chose not touch on the issue of issuing temporary IC receipts to foreigners in order for them to vote and collected them back after the voting. Mahathir can claim he did not know but the crux is that it is done right under his nose whose objective is very clear and that is to capture the state government from PBS. This is obviously an electoral fraud and punishable under the law.

  14. Now you know why Malaysian Passports are scrutinized thoroughly by Immigration officials in western countries. Lack of integrity and security. Fresh off the boat and you can get a Malaysian I/C which can then be used to secure a Malaysian Passport. All the brainchild of Mamak Tongkang Che Det.

  15. He is the biggest traitor of the country. Not only is he arrogant he still want to control the fate of the country.

  16. Dato, not just students of Royal Professor Ungku Aziz in the 60s, but 70s, 80s too… I was his student in 1979-1982 when he was a visiting professor… on “micro-finance and rural economics”, his forte!

  17. Geli hati I tengok orang Melayu sendiri yang memuja Melayu jelmaan ini. Cuba nak jadi orang beriman tetapi dosa sebesar ini sengaja di ketepikan, asyik shiok sendiri dengan perkara remeh saja. Inilah hakikatnya.

  18. The slimy old doc is trying to divert the attention of the people from the real issue on this RCI, i.e. granting of citizenship to illegal immigrants to help in winning election. Trying to drag TAR into this issue shows how despicable this man is.

  19. you MCA goons. Did you hear what Mahatir say? I dont expect running dogs to hear anything bad about their masters.

  20. Jika benar dakwaan TDM perkara ini sah, mengapa pegawai pegawai JPN sabah pada waktu itu ditahan dibawah ISA? RCI ini sebenarnya adalah medan pertempuran 2 kelompok manusia gilakan kuasa… sindiran yang menelan belanja yang besar… Menang jadi ABU,kalah jadi arang. Dulu TUN MUTAHIR kena fitnah hingga satu keluarga mati, hari ini bangsa yang memfitnah telah diberi Nama yang mirip dengan beliau.. TUN juga. Mari kita saksikan sendiri kesudahan cerita ini… filem terpanjang 500 tahun.

  21. The question is how are we going to solve the issues once Pakatan comes into power. Should we follow the Rhodesia’s modified method? Yes, it’s very aparthied in nature. Ian Smith’s government required those who wants to have full voting rights must have good educational background & pay a certain threshold income tax.

    Perhaps, Sabah should devise its own Rhodesia solution. How this is going to work, this is going to be a tough cookie…….One thing for sure, Sabah shall never be a muslim majority state. No muslim should hold more than 50% of sabahan. Plus the governor must always be a non muslim

    Why? Out of 13 stats, we only 1 non muslim chief minister…..It’s time to address the imbalance

  22. This link tells it all about the racial composition before & after the implementation of project IC. Frankly, it has wrecked the social fabric of Sabah. Perhaps, thanks to Mahathir, Sabah may fall in the hands of the Philipines if the illegals filipinos defected to defect back to Philipines…….Remember the Philipines has not given up the right of owning Sabah……They do have legitimate right……Through Sultan of Sulu. This is also the reason why Jeffrey/Pairin Kitingan borneosisation won’t work

    The racial composition during the formation of Malaysia

    32% Kadazandusuns,
    23% Chinese,
    15.8% Other Muslims,
    13.1% Bajaus,
    5.5% Indonesians
    4.9% Muruts,
    1.6% Filipinos and
    0.4% Malays.

    You can see that non muslims have acheived the majority in Sabah. In fact, comes to think of it, Sarawak too has a large majority of non muslim

    Come to think of it, LKY is right about Tunku. He’s as ambitious & ruthless as well. Ask how come Lim Chong Eu has left MCA when he failed to secure 1/3 MP seats for MCA. What the hell happen to Stephen Kalong Ningkan when he’s forced out of CMship? why Tun Mustapha was so much favoured as the CM of Sabah? In fact, the ketuanan melayu started during tunku’s time. The only difference is that Tunku still played by certain gentleman’s rule while Mahathir play by no rules

  23. DIN, I spent more than five years running around Putrajaya trying to get citizenship papers for my children. We knew that many Indons, Pakistanis and Bangladeshi were given outright passports only because they were muslims. I also know of quite a few professionals, including a highly qualified surgeon who was a Brit but could not even get permanent residency. You would think that the country would value such people. But it seems that cooks and general laborers are preferred, so long as they are muslims and will to vote BN. Mahathir was the leader and still is a leader to many Malaysians. The RCI revelations will do nothing to change the admiration of such Malaysians for Mahathir because, they are simply birds of the same feather.

    ———-
    I am sorry that you are having problem with citizenship for your kids. Perhaps you don’t know the ropes. Use an agent who will sort things out in a jiffy with some grease money.–Din merican

  24. Interestingly, Tun M never actually admitted to the revelations of Project IC in the RCI proceedings. Upon careful analysis, Tun M cleverly built a strawman that has nothing to do with what was revealed and then proceeded to defend his actions. He is right from his position but has said nothing regarding the issuance of ICs for votes as alleged.

    RCI – too early to draw conclusions?

  25. Dr MM: Astronomical Apartheid (giving resources to one race and not to others). Deception (control of media to fool the electorate). Gerrymandering and election rigging to steal elections. Hijacked & destroyed the Judiciary. Human right abuse, torture & suspected murders; what happenedd to Sabah CM Donald Stephen? Mismanagement & corruption (An economist at Morgan Stanley assessed M’sia might have lost US$100 bil since the early 80s to corruption (=RM300 bil = RM300,000 million) and Treason – granting national IC to aliens to get votes to stay in power and plunder on. Yet not a trace of humility and remorse, walking & talking proud, playing God. Call for his arrest now, to be charged ! 100 strokes of the rattan and life imprisonment and hard labour. I speak from NZ – rated as one of the world top countries for democracy and non-corruption.

  26. Some people command zero respect from the transparent, democratic parts of the world. Often the mere appearance or utterance of someone can be nauseating. Corrupt Sarawakian & Malaysian leaderships cannot attract men of integrity; neither can they enact & foster laws to maintain high moral standards, transparency, performance & success in governments. True religion, humanity and morality have no room for plunder & racism. The blacks are only 14% of US population, if Obama can be US President, a Chinese or Iban can be a Malaysian PM or Sarawak CM…think about it! How tragically you’ve been treated.
    Everyone is equal in the eyes of God.

  27. In Pakistan the Courts challenged the President, and 2 Prime Ministers one after another on corruption charges. Now in Egypt the Judiciary blocks President Morsi’s attempt to take advantage of the Constitution. In Malaysia? Dr MM has destroyed the independence of the judiciary, unleashed racism, apartheid, colossal mismanagement, nepotism, rampant corruption, aliens-turned-residents approaching 1 million (esp in Sabah) alien-voting & election rigging, plus all sort of crimes. He still thinks and talks like a national hero. In fact he is one the most despised and hated people in Asia. We’d love to see him brought to justice and punished. http://www.transparency.org/country#NZL I watch & speak from NZ – rated the World’s top for democracy & non-corruption.

  28. When you have criminal minds running a state or country, do they ever spare a thought on how to progress & excel their state/country and bring success & wellbeing to the people? Every minute they: * Meddle in giant projects to pocket kickbacks & profits. *Control the media (newspapers/radio/tv) to hide their crime & deceive the public. *Sabotage Opposition with various lies & fabrications. * Use public resources, cheat, rig & gerrymander elections to stay in power. * Cling on for 10-40 years to & suck & siphon out everything dry towards national bankruptcy. We’ll get you! God will get you!

  29. The George Soros Open Society Foundation is the primary donor of the Human Rights Watch, contributing $100 Million of $128 Million of contributions and grants received by the HRW in the 2011 financial year. What have you Dr MM given to Malayisa, let alone to the global society? Astonomical shame on you !
    Quote from 14/2/2011 Financial Twitter: … ..if you think …Mubarak is…richest man on earth, …hear what has former dictator Mahathir plundered….Mahathir’s wealth easily top US$22 to US$44 billion over his 22-year of iron-fist rule. …. Malaysia has more natural resources than Egypt and economically, Malaysia is richer….not necessary less corrupted than Egypt…..corruption in Malaysia is so entrenched that every institutions are tainted – from the monarchy, judiciary, executive, legislature to the …policemen on the street. Hence …is easily worth more than that.” Why do you think Mahathir’s sons are directors of 200 companies and drive some of the most expensive cars in the world? eg the Ferrari Enzo & the RM5.5million Bugatti Veyron…

  30. Native-born Sabahans should be up in arms over this confession
    (and the pathetic “but the other kids also did it” attempt at justification).

    Show your displeasure at the polls !

  31. I am sorry that you are having problem with citizenship for your kids. Perhaps you don’t know the ropes. Use an agent who will sort things out in a jiffy with some grease money.–Din merican

    Dato, I am sure you are not encouraging James to do likewise. He gets hung with the ropes. You’re pulling our leg, right! No joke no fun….

    James may not afford the greasy money or he is an upright fellow. Nevertheless, he sure have some gains to grind here.

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