July 9, 2012
The Penang Chief Minister responds to The Star’s Smear Campaign and Joceline Tan: “We have Nothing to Hide”
by Lim Guan Eng
The Star has declared open war with the Penang PR state government with another front-page story and four inside pages, including the editorial page on the “crying hills” today. This is a desperate attempt to whitewash the past sins of the previous BN government in approving hill projects above 250 feet.
By changing the previous headline title of the “dying hills” to the “crying hills”, this already an admission by the Star that the Star indulged in hyperbolic excesses not supported by facts.
The timing of this latest attack by the Star is suspicious. Coming at a time when The Star’s political masters, MCA, is facing public odium for conducting a cowardly smear campaign spreading lies about sexual misbehaviour and even assault by me and my wife. Clearly this is an attempt to distract attention from MCA’s failed smear campaign, MCA President Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek’s past sexual escapades as well as excuse the previous government from blame so as to help BN win back Penang.
Whether the Star will succeed in its political agenda to tarnish the green 
credentials of the PR state government and clear the path of a return of the BN state government that caused the problems in the first place, will ulitmately depend on the voters.
Whilst PR is willing to admit to mistakes made, we refuse to bear the sins and pay the price for the policy decisions made by the previous government in approving hill projects above 250 feet. Instead of beating up the present PR state government for a crime it did not commit, why has the Star consistently failed to hound the previous state government for giving 37 such approvals before 2008?
The Star’s claims of impartiality and that it is not singling out PR for criticism is as laughable as PERKASA’s claims that they are not racists. If the Star is impartial in criticising the previous administration approvals of hill projects, why did the Star kept silent 37 times when the previous BN state government gave 37 approvals to hill projects above 250 feet before 2008. Did the Star print an editorial 37 times and gave a 5 page coverage including front-page before 2008 against these 37 approvals?
Neither did the Star apologise when their columnist Joceline Tan was caught lying that the Yang di Pertua Majlis Perbandaran Pulau Pinang (MPPP) Patahiyah binti Ismail had contradicted me, when Patahiyah had clearly said that the 19 approvals given after 2008 were special projects approved by the previous BN state government!
Further, why did the Star not highlight those hill projects in BN-controlled states and pick only on Penang. Unlike the Federal government’s EPU guidelines of defining a hill as exceeding 500 feet, the Penang guidelines have fixed the building line at 250 feet. Unfortunately the previous BN government violated these guidelines by not only approving 37 projects before 2008 but also gave approval for those above 250 feet as special projects.
Neither did the Star give front page treatment criticising the previous BN state government for approving special projects, where such hill projects above 250 feet so classified cannot be rejected solely because they are above 250 feet.
Patahiyah had explained that the 19 approvals by MPPP for heights above 250 feet after 2008 fell under the special projects category and had to be processed according to normal geo-technical guidelines. MPPP cannot reject them on the basis that they were above 250 feet.
As the PR state government cannot cancel these hill projects, to mitigate the situation, the state government has resorted to imposing the most stringent guidelines in the country which were drawn up by a hillslope geo-technical committee headed by Oxford-trained engineer Dr Gue See Saw. These geo-technical guidelines were imposed retrospectively much to the unhappiness of developers, some who threatened legal action.
Whilst the state government sympathised with the unhappiness of those hill projects and the problems of those residents affected by the ongoing development, there is nothing the state government can do unless the drastic step of cancelling the project is taken. To do so entails compensation of hundreds of millions or even billions of ringgit which would bankrupt the state.
The Penang PR state government will not lead Penang towards bankruptcy. Perhaps the BN Federal government should come forward and bear these compensation losses for cancelling the hill projects since BN were responsible for approving them in the first place. Would the Star be willing to play a front-page story pressing demand of compensation from the BN Federal government?
Or would the Star demand that the developers stop the hill projects? Isn’t this sheer hypocrisy of the Star to be so chummy with developers of these hill projects during their Star Property Fair in Penang and yet dare not criticise the developers in name for carrying hill projects.
Finally, it is not The Star but the voters of Penang who will decide whether the 
PR state government have done our part to protect the hills by not approving any hill projects above 250 feet. The PR state government is willing to be punished for not approving any hill projects above 250 feet and would respect the voters’ decision if they decide to trust BN again despite BN giving all these approvals.
We appreciate those Star reporters and chief editors who are from Penang and care about the state. Penang welcomes you back and we will work hard to make Penang a green state, an international heritage city with a vibrant art culture. But these so-called concerns sound hollow when the Star distorts the truth and practises double-standards.
The PR state government will continue to directly engage with NGOs and even Star’s Datuk Seri Wong Chun Wai on the background, the status and any related issues. Since Wong is talking about the rape of our beloved hills, we would like to know who is doing the raping and what steps MPPP is taking.
As we have nothing to hide, I have asked Yang di Pertua MPPP Patahiyah binti Ismail to engage with NGOs and affected parties. That is why the state government had instructed MPPP to declassify all the minutes about approvals for hill projects above 250 feet. I am extending an open invitation to Wong Chun Wai to an open dialogue with me and my MPPP officials on this hill issue. I await his response.
* Lim Guan Eng is the Chief Minister of Penang. This letter was sent to The Star in response to their reports.–www.themalaysianinsider
The star ,a shit newspaper full of lies just to hide their master’s sins , its all right to be a donkey or cow to be pulled whichever way the masters like
it is so obvious The Star and its owners are on a concerted attack on Lim Guan Eng. No pretence. No finesse. Did The Star accept advertisements from developers to advertise their projects? Cameron Highlands is DEAD! Genting Highlands is BALD! Lodging is in a COMA. Yet not a single concern from Wong Chun Wai.
Judging from the events that are happening in the States held by PK. Don’t Malaysian think that it is so tiring to always have to answers to trump-up allegations from BN/UMNO? It is a waste of time and it deprived PK’s effort to bring development to the States and welfare for the people. Every reply to allegations are time consuming and non-productive. How do we stop such nonsenses and it’s senseless. If we continue to have BN around these trump-up allegations will never ceased. How would you have a one term government to put a 25 terms government in order. The only solution is to vote them out completely.
My opinions may not matter much since i’m not a Penangite. But it’s clear to me, that the more the Establishment wallops LGE and DAP, the worse off they are. The Star is but a tool and it’s embarrassing that self professed ‘Christians’ can stoop so low as to spin the unspinnable. Looks like these arachnids are stuck on a loom of irrelevancy since they lack even one Iota of true inventiveness.
Otoh, my empathy to LGE and Betty for what these irascible morons are trying to ‘create’ ex-nihilo. Comprendo?
“…that self professed ‘Christians’ can stoop so low as to spin the unspinnable.” C.L Familiaris
Please do not think highly of Christians. I am a Christian and I am ashamed see some of my brethren behaving worse than Hindus and Buddhists whom they think are beyond salvation.
Wong and Tan are journalistic gigolo and prostitute respectively.
They will step on the Bible to preserve their rice bowl.
STAR is the english version of UTUSAN.
The malaysia crook association is very desperate to grab back some votes, and their political paper have to drum up some saucy tales to please their uno master.
The Star, owned by MCA, has gone over the top on the Penang Hill development issue. These projects were awarded by Koh Tsu Khoon, President of Gerakan in his capacity as UMNO-BN Chief Minister. Cancellation of those projects would cost the current administration millions of ringgits in compensation. This is something that LGE and his Exco colleagues are not prepared to do.
It is now best for LGE to go directly to Penangites and explain the matter and declassify and release documents which were given to successful developers into the public domain. Let Penangites decide what they should do to prevent the projects from getting off the ground. –Din Merican
The people know that the current Penang state government inherited many ‘can of worms’ from the previous state government and one of them is the indiscriminate development of hills and hill slopes all over the island without a care for the environment. To go into ‘damage control’ mode would be very difficult and very costly for the current state government.
Please do not think highly of Christians. I am a Christian and I am ashamed see some of my brethren behaving worse than Hindus and Buddhists whom they think are beyond salvation. -Sam01
thats the case with ALL religions, the poor folks will live according to the teachings of the Holy Books, but those with power and money will stoop to any level to acquire more power and money.
all religions are man-made except God, the one Being above us all.
God created us and told us to bugger off and live our lifes and behave ourselves.
that, we should do!
STAR lives because of MCA, its a pity that it still carries the acronym for ”Suara Tunku Abdul Rahman”!
rest in peace Tunku, soon we will wipe out this newspaper.
Haha.. nice to tweak a tail or two, reeper!
There are bore-derlines and borderlines, but none so clear as hypocrites. Let’s not go overboard in His Name. The Star is in the twilight zone – a quantum world where nothing is as it is. Woe. Look at their articles – the Double Slit Observer Effect aplenty! Sometimes a particle, other times a wave. At least Utusan remains as it is – true trash.
Jocelyn Tan prostitutes journalism and professionalism to put food on her table.
I have stop buying the newspaper since 2007. And i believe many of my friends in Penang have done the same thing.
Please dont think the rakyat are brainless. The more nonsense appears on the paper, the more hatred will be generated. So actually the papers is doing a disfavour to the BN government.
Obviously, LGE, the present chief minister has the qualities of a person with guts and capabilities. And he can declassify the minutes and has invited the journalist to a dialogue with him and his officers.
I salute the state government!!
The star is worse than a trull. The government can’t even fulfill the fairness in media demand by Bersih yet they are claiming “janji ditepati”. Even have a road show for “janji ditepati. WTF?!
“Wong and Tan are journalistic gigolo and prostitute respectively.
They will step on the Bible to preserve their rice bowl.”
Very correct indeed.
Wong Chun Wai has to write crap to justify his kopi-O datukship .
Penangite Chinese describes him as “bo lam par Datuk “
STAR newspaper??
It is short for “Shit Trash And Rubbish ” newspaper
all religions are man-made except God – reeperbahn
What are you talking about? If religion is man-made, God as integral to religion is also man-made.
Always remember, God ( and his so called abode) ONLY exist between your ears. That is why people pray with their eyes CLOSED so they can stimulate their brains to imagine GOD. Once they open their eyes, they come to their senses and see REALITY… A world without God. Go to your church or mosques.
You are absolutely right : Religions are man made because God is a figment of your imagination … It’s all in between your ears.
Interesting hypothesis Frank.
I’ll agree with you to the extent of God is truly within the Mind – whatever that is. He (gender neutral) is the Eternal Reality of Man’s Evolution and external to our physical Reality. The conceptual basis for his existence are by Revelation, not from ‘sciences’ which require physical proofs. When i use the term ‘God’, consider it generic. The Tetragrammaton, YHWH, is the absolute final Word on ‘Self Revealing Self’. Without Religion there can be no civilization. Your angst against ‘organized religion’ is understandable, but needs to be tempered with a sense that we are coming to an age where Science is becoming as nebulous as the concept of God. Genomics, neurosciences and psychology can only tell us so much. The human Experience is beyond any measurable parameters.
Recent archaeological findings and anthropological studies seem to point out that religion came first and sparked off paleo-agriculture and domestication of animals, followed by the advent of ancient civilization (cf Neolithic Globeki Tepe, Turkey, Catal Hayek and Jericho). It was Not agriculture first.
Religion is/was never the result of idle minds, but the basis of our human-ness and the result of our ‘consciousness’. Some call it spirituality, others use it as a weapon.
The conceptual basis for his existence are by Revelation-C.L. Familiaris
I hope you don’t mean by reading the Book of Relevation in the Bible.
The human mind through evolution is conditioned for survival of the physical being by revelation through its 5 senses. The predictive capability of the human mind is achieved through experiential and cognitive learning made possible by one or more of the five senses. That forms the only basis of his/her REALITY.
Anything else is just virtual world put out into play by the neurons between the ears. If that is perceived as reality, it is called hallucination .
Socalves robe to who say they experience God as HALLUCINATING about God. Like John Lennon who sings about Lucy in the Sky of Diamonds.
From young, I used to wonder when I watch Christians and Muslims pray, they have both their eyes firmly CLOSED. I tried doing the same, and I “see” empty blackness, not even a flicker of eternal light. I look up to the cloudless sky during the day, I see NOTHING but blue emptiness.
For Hindus and those Chinese who pray in the temples, they better keep their eyes open, or else they will cause a fire in the temple with their joss sticks and burning candles … also they like to see face to face to who they are praying to anyway.
Buddhists chant with eyes open or closed, makes no difference, because they are NOT looking for God.. and they don’t believe God ever existed. They chant to exercise their lungs, vocal chords and to keep themselves busy.
So, here is a one million question: What is the difference between believers of the desert religion and believers of the eastern religion?
The former pray with their eyes closed, and the latter pray with their eyes open.
Correction
Some describe those who say they experience God as HALLUCINATING about God.
“…where Science is becoming as nebulous as the concept of God” – C.L. Familiaris
Not true. Science is getting close to making God as another immortal being who share the same attributes of the super primate, love, anger, revenge, propensity to kill, divide and rule, as something of a joke.
Only last week, scientists have finally discovered Higgs Boson or commonly called God-particle. Without it, nothing exists.
I would say Science is dismantling the religious hocus pocus and disrobing those preachers with their silly outcries from the pulpits.
Science WILL replace Religion… That will be the natural progression in how human civilisation will proceed forward. We are many steps removed from the days of superstition about the sun as a God, of fire as the anger of God, and the wind as the whispers of God. That only takes basic science to change the thinking of mankind.
The human race is now into another higher level of understanding in removing another superstition, and it requires what is called nano- science and the science of subatomic particles.
Time for us to wake up and let our children and grandchildren and their children to embrace a new world for which they will be in full control of their destiny, not from some ignorant preachers talking about an imaginary figure up in the black emptiness.
“.. we are coming to an age where Science is becoming as nebulous as the concept of God. ” – CLF
Really? I wonder what Dawkins would say.
Explain the Higgs boson and Higg’s field in layman’s terms? That it has a mass of 125GeV/c2? There are particles in terms of 1.4 TeV/c2. Why is that so? Is that esoteric mathematics available to the common man?
The Standard model is mathematical, but neutrinos were wrongly described as massless. And 70% of the Universe is made of the hypothetical ‘dark energy’ with another 23% ‘dark matter’ and the remaining ‘real matter’? Is that fact, belief or faith? Yet, i don’t belief in God of the Gaps.
There is a lot of stuff we don’t understand and can’t, like the Anthropomorphic Principle – why the Universe exists as it is – no more no less, by powers that are beyond reason. To apply the mechanistic view to evolution, genetics and quantum physics is a disservice to the human mind.
Reality is a function of neuronal circuitry at the quantum level, yet projected at a relativistic tapestry. You guys are thinking with binary circuits – 0 and 1. Quantum computing requires 0, 1 and 0/1 (indeterminate). See what Newton has done? Can reality be broken down into component parts or are we living in a projected hologram universe? See the Holographic hypothesis.
I do not doubt the validity and integrity of verifiable science, as i was ‘trained’ in it. I don’t do pseudo-science. For your reading pleasure, go to the Observer Effect in the Double Slit experiment, that i alluded to with reeper, and see how fallacious ‘scientific’ arguments can be. Believing in parallel universes and alternate realities is worse than Living and Experiencing the Now. I don’t need Richard Dawkins and memetic desire to tell me how to feel and think, do I?
C.L. Familiaris ,
The fact remains Science will be the main thread which will weave through the whole fabric of human society in generations to come. It is as Religion had done for thousands of years controlling human civilisation and which had prevented Science to blssom in the human mind.
We are living in an intellectual revolution never seen before in human history, not since when Galileo peered through his telescope and Martin Luther broke the back of the Roman Catholic Church and its stranglehold on human progress.
Science will dictate totally the lives of mankind in the near future. It won’t take place in our life times, but it will. We are at that stage of human dvelopment as when the those monotheistic preachers about morenthan two millenia ago praying for the day when Roman and Greek pantheism would be replaced by monotheism.
We are indeed at that threshold… Transition from Religion as an article of faith to Science as the article of faith. In fact we already do that with our computers, internet and social networkings and our exploration deep into our oceans and into outer space. The preachers of tomorrow will be those scientists. The good thing is that these scientists are interdependent on each other to remain relevant as opposed to the religious preachers of today who cancel each other out, adopting the winner takes all attitude, ie” if you’re faith is different from mine, than your religion is false and minei is true” .
My only regret is I am not alive to see that day. I know without any doubt at all, that day WILL come.
JAKIM is and will be seen in generations to come as a malignant cancer allowed to grow and stunting the development of the Malaysian muslim society.
The ‘Death of God’ has seen many revisions, Frank.
It can’t happen as long as man has a sense of ‘wonder’ and imagination. You are making a fundamental error in confusing objectivity with subjectivity. Science and Religion are compatible and even complementary. They serve different streams of our consciousness. It’s when we insist on pseudo-religion and science, that it becomes incompatible.
I’m an existentialist who happens to have faith. I’m not a rabid religious freak mired in doctrinal debates; and there will come a time when the ‘Mind of God’ becomes clearer, but no less distant. Truth is not out-there, but in here. Truth is subjective, to the level we can understand and respond to – not at depths that we require mere belief or disbelief (e.g the particle-wave duality, which becomes absurd to reason).
At a personal level, i’ve seen enough pain, suffering and death, not to believe in God. Not as a ‘Crutch’, ‘Mega-Magnanimity’ or even a ‘Redeemer’, but a Presence when all else goes to shit. That is Grace; and i chose to believe, just as you choose not to believe. Yet my ‘Faith’ is tenuous, as it should be – for it is then we ask, seek and knock at the door. Through all, i do not seek the Mind, but His Grace.
Wonder when science will discover the end of infinity in space…??!!
And on that moment of discovery I will agree with Frank about his “Godless ” interpretation…
I agree with CLF…In our endeavor and soul searching of God we don’t seek the Mind but as humble and obedient servants we seek His Grace…
In my opinion the reason why Scientist Prof. Higgs and his researchers called it “God Particle” ( the Higgs boson theory) which gives particles that make up atoms their mass and difficult to explain by reasoning, must be the scientists recognition of God existence…As CLF rightly said Science and Religion are compatible an even complementary…
God didn’t die. It is just that it takes time for human beings to get rid of their figment of imagination. It took a 1,000 years for human beings to get rid of the idea that the world was flat, and it took almost the same time for human beings to get rid of the idea that the earth is the center of the universe or the sun revolves the earth. It took Science to debunk that.
Likewise it will be Science which will debunk the idea of a God that share all the human attributes of hate, love, anger and the propensity to kill.
All the abstract philosophical labels used generally by religious scholars to justify their indefensible viewpoints against the onslaught of Science will remain nothing more than labels to be debated around the coffee table. Meanwhile it is Science which will eventually transform irreversibly human thoughts and bring greater enlightenment. All these philosophical labels are only good for the mental masturbation of the human mind.
Religion has done its job , for better or for worse, and now Religion is about to past it’s use-by date. Clinging on to Religion and Divine interventions in the affairs of the human race is akin to taking home an out-of-date product for the supermarket shelves.
Thanks guys, I enjoyed reading the above.
CLF, for once I didn’t have to read you, twice.
And Frank, you write damn well when you are not angry.
I believe both frank and CLF are correct. whislt I am more toward CLF and my seeking is on the inward and not outward, Science is another stream of consciousness,for thsoe who need it . I believe the reason this God particle is now on display is because people believe less in religion and need something more contemporary to witness. Humans are far away from the traditional path of religion ( except of course M’sia) . Both paths will lead to one point , question is how much will we be allowed to find out and when thorugh Science.
Philosophical labels as you have termed it frank in itself can not be ‘proven’ simply becasue it is an individual experience rather than a an experience by all ( as in Science). It doesnt make it any less true. In fact these experiences are nto allowed to be explained at all as none will believe. That is deliberate for individual experiences of God cannot be duplicated .That is the difference . And so to someone like frank it is intangible .
The most important difference is , the receipient of the knowledge is also crucial. Each recipient of knowlledge has their own understanding and their own ability to process knowledge and acceptance level. iI is not the knowledge that is different , it is in the receiving. Frank starts from a position of non beleif. this still does not negate the Existence, it is merely that , a non belief. merely a position taken. Ones position taken will not affect the realm of Existence. It only affects franks reality alone , nothing else.
Most people start off, with wanting to believe. It’s part of being ‘human’ – the need to ‘connect’ with Someone beyond their existence. To help understand the core of ‘Being’ – which is consciousness, experience and sentience. Imagination requires super-nature and unshackles us from an earth bound existence.. It begins with animism, ancestor worship, then polytheism, henotheism and lastly, monotheism. It cannot be called philosophy, which is naturalistic, but a belief in super-nature.
What happens along the way, is that we have religious dogma and doctrines that defy reason. The ‘Problem of Evil’ and ‘Theodicy’ rages unabated. That is when doubt appears and hardens the heart. Many grasp at straws, believing in an anthropological God who’s mega-Man with all the human attributes of infinite blood-lust, revenge and yet unparalleled benevolence for believers. Liturgy develops due Man’s incapacity to deal with super-nature.
As i have said before, the orthodox mysteries are doctrines kept back from the uninitiated, so that they are not misunderstood, misapplied or reduced to cheap approximations (Frank knows what i mean by this – take glossolalia, for example). They are a set of concepts, ideas and postulates that have to be mastered – so that we can truly grasp the wisdom they express. Visionary realities are not reducible to categories of time and space. They merely ‘enable’ experiential wisdoms. (Sorry, Ai tze you’d have to read this again).
Whether one has faith or not, does nothing for the state of Being. But i would be appalled if someone were to say that our Minds were mere logic supercomputers. With that notion – wonder, imagination, poetry, beauty and Love dies.
Poor LGE’s eyes will glaze over, when he does visit this blog..!
“I would be appalled if someone were to say that our Minds were mere logic supercomputers.” – CLF
They would have to be to be able to understand this thread properly. I have never visited Wiki so often just to read one thread.
How come we have digressed so much, go off-tangent from the topic ?
Short comment, What is ‘ God-particle’ ? particle is ” matter ” , is Prof Higgs trying to describe ‘God ‘ as matter, or more likely, to claim Success in the noton of Scientific Determinism, that having discovered or located this particular Energy-boson, therfore, it satifies the TOE theory – the theory of everything – as to ” who ” or what that began the Universe sans ” God “, ie ” Negativing ” the Universal Force called God ?
If so, by intuitive knowledge – i am no scientist – i postulate that the located Energy Boson, operates in a different, much much higher, time-space dimension, at least 4 times higher than the Speed of light !
Well, even Energy at the subatomic particle level that operates at our earthly time-space dimension at the speed of light, Scientist are UNABLE to say what Exactly Energy is, except to harness its properties from its effect, for benefit of mankind – they do not know what Energy is.
What more Energy like ” Boson” operating 4 times the velocity of light in a much higher, different time-space zone or dimension ?
Haha.., true, we have digressed overmuch.
That’s the nature of Chaos. We’re supposed to be entering a new Age of Computing, Ai Tze. Postmodernism is a phenomenon, where Nothing is as it is. Yup, in a way super-nature takes control once again, only that nowadays we call it Technology. The Western world is entering it, while the rest are concentrating on getting their next meal. The circle of endless Toil, yet ‘gifted’ (anointed, if used religiously) people like us sitting at our consoles conversing in ‘abstracts’, thousands of miles apart. Not Fair?
I think this is not the place to discuss the Higg’s Boson and it’s corollary mechanism or Higg’s Field, Abnizar. But the term God Particle is a misnomer, by laymen following Leon Lederman’s book on “The God Particle. If the Universe is the Answer, what is the Question?” If that ‘discovery’ is confirmed, then it may explain that big hole in the Standard Model of particle physics, on how matter is created (or mass acquired) from energy. Just think of it as a reverse way of ‘imagining’ a nuclear explosion. Remember the Information and Energy thingy? The information is still wanting and will always want. Enough said, otherwise flesh, bone and brain hentam us..
Yes, i get you….i get you finally CLF, to the crux of the ‘matter’ as to Who or What that began our Universe by that hypothetical ” Big Bang” theory : as you say ” …..on how matter is created ( or mass acquired) from energy” , and not energy created from matter in the very beginning., So yes, God Particle is indeed a Misnomer….
Exquisite CLF, the way you have explained all the way, to come to this. Simply outstanding & wonderful, my friend….
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Jangan lah bodek sangat.–Din Merican
Information in the energy thing, CLF, its there in the Genesis, if only we can scrutinise & understand that part…..the ‘clue’ about what began the Universe, is what “Religion ” says….yes comprendo.
Betul…betul….sepatut nya saya but bodek-ism kepada Tun M, DS Najib or DSAI, boleh jadi Jutawan….menyesal juga….jangan marah be…..
Hi BNPuteras!
You can’t fool all the people all the time! Sure you are going to get terribly bashed up in the upcoming polls in Penang! It’s going to be a blitzkrieg, buddies! Be manly to face facts and truth! may god bless you all!
PJ
CAN WE START A CAMPAIGN TO BOYCOTT the star?
I am seriuos, talk is cheap, criticism is cheap, lets do it. If the star fare poorly economically, the bunch of mca idiots will be short of funds to continue their smear campaign etc.. lets do it.
Very Simple vote the MCA and UMNO OUT. No guts to talk about the BN UMNO Corruption, everywhere criminals activities, Racist activities by the PERKASA. DAY ROBBERY by the UMNO.
ah well .. thanks people for being off-topic .. lol. i never had to read a thread and had to come back to re-read it again just to understand what’s written. am so bookmarking this.
Everyone has a price but good to know that the star, wong c w and joceline tan sold their souls cheaply. Best part they were paid by an aging viagra’d porn star and his production team! Xmalu! Habis cerita.