July 8, 2012
Nathaniel Puts TALAM in Perspective
(07-07-12)@http://www.malaysiakini.com
COMMENT: “Confusing” probably describes most of our initial attempts to get to the bottom of what the deal was between Talam Corporation and Selangor.
With a little diligence, clear thinking and attention to detail however, most mysteries can be unravelled and articulated efficiently.
This article attempts to explain in easy to understand terms the background and context of this issue, how Selangor recovered the debt owed to it by Talam, and how this debt recovery differs from the bailouts we have seen at the federal level.
In the Beginning
The story begins in the late eighties and early nineties, with an engineer and
project manager who worked in Selangor state subsidiary PKNS – one Chan Ah Chye (right).
This man later goes on to form Talam Corporation, and before long – possibly due to close connections with the ruling elite in Selangor, then headed by BN Menteri Besar Muhammad Muhammad Taib – he becomes a major player in the Selangor property and development scene.
Over time, an extremely large amount of state land is alienated to Talam, who basically gets it for free. A strong imagination is not required to speculate in whose pockets any resulting profit eventually ends up.
Talam’s modus operandi seems to be to pledge this land to the bank in exchange for huge loans, which they then use to finance their development and profit making projects. In essence, since they got the land free, they have successfully achieved money for nothing (it is uncertain as to whether “chicks for free” were involved).
The ‘wise’ businessmen of that era believed in the dictum of never using your own money when you can use someone else’s. This heavy lending continued to characterise Talam’s business approach, and their loans consistently kept getting bigger and bigger.
Tumbling down
Of course, no student of recent economic trends is unfamiliar with the concept of a bursting bubble.
The financial collapse of the late nineties brings Talam’s debt-ridden house of cards crashing down. An overgearing of loans and inability to service them halts various half-completed projects, rendering them idle, half-built ruins.Incredibly however, this does not prevent Talam and their political patrons from altering their basic modus operandi.
In 2001, under BN Menteri Besar Khir Toyo (left), three parcels of land are alienated by Selangor to Talam via their subsidiary Maxisegar Sdn Bhd, who undertakes to construct Unisel’s campus at an estimated cost of RM750 million.
It will probably come as no surprise that Talam failed to complete this project. By September 2006, the company had been classified as an affected company under Practice Note 17 (PN 17), indicating dire financial straits.
New Sheriff in town
In 2008, when Khalid Ibrahim assumes the Menteri Besar’s post, he inherits a situation in which Talam owes the state of Selangor and its subsidiaries (among other creditors), a great deal of money.
Urban legend has it that when Talam was called in to explain why they have never endeavoured to pay their debts, the sheepish reply given was, “No one ever asked us to.”
Thankfully for the citizens of Selangor, there was a new sheriff in town.
Corporate finance is not only an area of expertise for Khalid (left) – it is a passion. With great gusto, he set out to solve this problem, and recover that which was owed by Talam to the people of Selangor.
The problem was undoubtedly challenging, but after some work and careful strategising, a plan was set into motion.The end goal was simple: to leverage the assets still held by Talam to repay the debt Talam owed to the Selangor and its state subsidiaries.
The technical nitty-gritty
Making this happen was a technically complicated process that required considerable financial acumen.
The summary is this: firstly, the debts that were owed by Talam to Selangor state subsidiaries were properly booked and accounted for – something that, very suspiciously, had not been done before. Once these debts were acknowledged by all parties, the debts were consolidated and transferred to one state subsidiary – Menteri Besar Incorporated (MBI), which was then responsible for collecting the debts from Talam in the form of land and cash.
The rest of this section explains how this was done.
It is a boring and complex explanation, but I list it here for the record and for those interested.
Talam owed RM392 million to three Selangor state subsidiaries: KHSB, PIYSB, and PNSB. After acknowledging and booking these debts, the next step was to have another state subsidiary, Selangor Industrial Corporation (SIC), purchase these debts from the other three companies.
A loan from CIMB Bank of RM 392 million was given to SIC to complete this purchase. In November 2009, the state exco and legislative assembly both approved a grant of RM392 million to MBI, which then used the funds to purchase the original consolidated debt from SIC. SIC then uses those funds to pay off their CIMB loan.
The end result is as simple as the transaction itself is complex – without any major or excessive transactional expenses, Talam now owes the same amount of money to just one state subsidiary, instead of the original three.
Restructuring and successful collection
It is important to note that at no point are funds transferred from taxpayer monies to Talam. Funds have instead only been transferred from one pocket of the state to another.
This differs wildly from federal bailouts of corporations like Indah Water Konsortium, MAS, or the Putra/Star LRT, where taxpayer money was injected directly into companies that had probably lost untold amounts via mismanagement, corruption and plundering.
The transfers in the Talam debt restructuring allowed for a structure in which there is a clear acknowledgement and accounting for the RM392 million owed by Talam, and a single company for them to pay it to.
The story does not end there.Another extremely important milestone in this tale is that MBI has in fact already succeeded in recovering all RM392 million in debt owed by Talam.
For those who would like to keep score, this recovery came in two forms. RM340.88 million was recovered via acquisition of land and assets: 1,322 acres of land in Bukit Beruntung worth RM150.28 million, 2,264 acres of land in Bestari Jaya worth RM105.3 million, 400 acres of land in Ulu Yam and 60% equity in Ulu Yam Golf & Country Resort worth RM22.2 million, 134 acres of land in Danau Putra worth RM52.1 million and five office units in Menara Pandan worth RM11.1 million.
The remaining RM51.12 million was collected in cash: RM12 million from sales of land in Puncak Jalil, RM5 million in cash assignments from EON, RM7.68 million in payments by Unisel for earthworks, RM9.04 million from the sale of 25.94 acres of land in Bukit Beruntung, and RM17.4 million from sales of 218 acres of land in Bestari Jaya.
Go ahead, count it – it’s all there.
Facts trump hype – again
How can we summarise this? For more than a decade under BN, one corporation owed the state hundreds of millions of ringgits.
Within a year or two of taking over, Khalid managed to collect on these debts, instantly increasing the amount of money available to spend on welfare programmes throughout Selangor.
Scandal?
Yes, it’s a scandal that Talam was allowed to get the free lunch it did under BN, and it’s a scandal that it took this long for to create the change in government that succeeded in cleaning up the mess.
It would be insulting to suggest that this article is titled specifically in the hopes that Chua Tee Yong (left) would take the time to carefully peruse the facts within. Nevertheless, perhaps he may find the exercise beneficial in his longer term efforts to maintain what little credibility he has left.
Said credibility is shrinking at about the same rate at which he is reducing the amount of money claimed to be ‘misused’ by Selangor – from RM1 billion, to RM260 million, to RM42 million. Before long, he may have to measure in sen instead.
Perhaps Chua fancies himself a Rafizi Ramli. What he fails to understand however, is that Rafizi’s exposes are not just all about ‘glamorous’ press conferences and big numbers. Behind every expose is a ton of hard work and solid research.
Behind Chua appears only to be blind ambition that extends far beyond ability, and a shameful mainstream media that think that hype can overturn facts.
Very well understood. Let us wait what CSL junior’s comment. Thanks Nathan.
And what of Chan Ah Chye? What steps were /are/will be taken to bring him to book?
like father like son.
shameless. as if being caught with pants down is to be proud of. i hope the son doesn’t get caught as his father and in the same room.
Let us not forget to thank the deputy miss-nister for bringing up the issue. Or else I would not have learned of a good deed done by the Selangor State Gov in greater details.
The mainstream media still playing up the issue, choosing to ignore the facts. What a country! I think we are now ranking behind Cambodia in terms on integrity , or what’s left of it.
Thanks Nat for the detailed info on this Talam scandal .
I wonder CTY graduated from which institution/university ?
As a Chartered Accountant myself, I will not let my kid who are going to pursue accountany next year to go to the same institution/university.
Don’t be surprised there are many accountants of the same calibre as this Chua in Malaysia. But they do have many professional titles printed on their business just to add some credentials to impress strangers.
Thanks Nat! You always make complicated things into 101!
Tan Sri Khalid started his career as a lecturer and then went on to be an investment banker before joining the legendary Bank Negara Governor and PNB Chairman at PNB. He built his reputation for his involvement in the Guthrie dawn raid on the London Stock Exchange. So Tan Sri Khalid knows how to handle the Talam restructuring. It is, in fact, chicken feed to him because he had dealt with more complex restructurings when he was in PNB. Nathaniel Tan explained the Talam matter well, making MCA’s Chua Tee Yong and son of Dr. Chua Soi Lek, look very amateurish. –Din Merican
This is all about collusion between big business and government. Can anybody spare some thoughts for the small man who get cheated off their life savings investing in properties which are over valued in a country with lots of land??
A hole in the wall called affordable housing is not exactly everyone’s idea of a home.
Let’s get passed the personalities, about who’s who, and who made it rich etc. Let’s get to the issues. See the bigger picture.
Like UMNO, this unmentionable of a lap-mongrel party is finding increasingly difficult to come up with intelligent, purposeful and innovative ideas to deal with the current political reality.
It is not about personages, but the whole rotten edifice that survived on the corrupt, rent-seeking, lying, hubristic enterprise that was BN (notice the past participle?). The bloody nose inflicted by this piece will be followed by a knock out punch to the groin, a kick to the butt and insertions to the nether orifice which I leave to your imaginations.
Selangor PR, has much more to reveal and the information that is being ‘leaked’ to the dudder-heads to chew on will cause more indigestion. Yup, the ‘bigger’ picture is more surrealistic than you can imagine.
With all this going on, it’s lil’ wonder that the former dentist could extract gold and platinum from mere dentine, and TYson could not speako English.
Well explained. Thank goodness for Din Merican’s blog.
Agreed with Mr. Bean…Properties in Selangor are over valued exorbitantly beyond the reach of the common wage earners…imagine a double storey link (20 x70 ) in Dengkil cost an approx. RM 380,000..?? What has the Selangor PR did to curb the properties market absurd inflation, and denied the common majority to own properties in Selangor…??
James, one possible solution would be to shift to Gebeng, Kuantan. Jobs? Rare earth mah..
It boils down to free-market economics, the failure of ‘hi income’ policies, greed of speculators/developers and of course inflation. Corruption? Yup, that too, but not on a massive scale seen under UMNO. The developers near my humble abode are demanding a blood-curdling 600k for a minuscule pigeon-hole service apartment of 650 sq ft. Ridiculous, So don’t buys and stay with your parents until kingdom come!
Property prices are a function of macroeconomic policies. The macroeconomics of this country stink, don’t you think? But our most awesome dear leader is more concerned about micro or rather nano-economics of “Lu tolong.., Gua tolong.”
James, PR have nothing to do with properties market. No Govt., can say or price any property. Same, as no Govt., can tell what the price of tek tarik or roti canai or bread shud be sold as..
My first double-storey linked in Damansara Utama cost me RM57k in 1975. My double strorey bungalow in D’sara Heights cost me RM190k in 1979. Today the same bungalow is valued at RM1.8 million. Last time I checked several years ago.
Are you better off today than you were 30 years ago?? How much is one teh tarek, roti canai and curry kepala ikan today? Anybody?
what a graduate. cant even understand finance 101 and in the course make a fool of himself. hey, chua junior there is a room waiting for you in batu pahat. just like your dad. no, it’s ok. your dad is proud of what he has done. so you will be. like father like son, no?
Accountability, transparency & the awakening of good governance after bad. You tell it so well Nat.
“No Govt., can say or price any property. Same, as no Govt., can tell what the price of tek tarik or roti canai or bread shud be sold as..”
It is essentially market driven in a free market system but what price the factors of production like land in Malaysia? How could a house I lived in, in the suburbs of London cost less than one in Kuala Lumpur?
Very naive of anyone to suggest that the government has no role to play in the pricing of properties. Corruption also drives the cost of land and its development. Cars in Malaysia wouldn’t cost this much had the government not gone into local manufacturing of cars. A Beamer here costs only a faction of what it costs in Malaysia.
If Mr Nathaniel can know all the facts on the Talam fiasco,would anyone in BN be as ignorant as CTY not to know as much? BN made CTY dig into this shameful fiasco to influence Selangor rakyat to swing votes to BN,unaware that great people like Mr Nathaniel has all the facts laid out thus backfiring this stupid move..lets hope this article is read by all rakyat especially selangor’s..
Collusion between Chinese capitalists and corrupt UMNO politicians. The dichotomy between Chinese economic interest and Malay political domination still holds true today. The small man, Malay, Chinese and Indian gets trapped in between, falling in between the cracks serving as mere fodder so the politically connected and the strong could continue to prey on the weak and helpless.
Don’t slap yourself Chua! Surprise that you are Accountant! Very disappointed with the many wrong talks and actions that both your dad & you done. Made me decide not to vote you.
Agreed with Mr. Bean…Properties in Selangor are over valued exorbitantly beyond the reach of the common wage earners…imagine a double storey link (20 x70 ) in Dengkil cost an approx. RM 380,000..?? What has the Selangor PR did to curb the properties market absurd inflation, and denied the common majority to own properties in Selangor
james – July 7,
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Why blame Selangor? You should blame the Government for not able to transform malaysia into high income nation like Singapore. Still remember the fresh graduate during 70s earning RM 2K ? after 40 years the pay still the same.
If our earning and ringgit is as strong as Singapore then property cost at RM 1 mil is peanut.
Just imagine if you are earning $6K = RM 15,000 and buying a RM 1 mil property is consider affordable.
Be wise to put the blame.
I know Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim since the early PNB days and I followed his progress very closely on how he set out to build PNB to what it is today. When I first met him, he was only an assistant general manager. PNB’s chairman then was the fearsome and the no-nonsense Tun Ismail Ali. I was then just a lowly executive in one of the subsidiaries under PERNAS when PNB was carrying out a due diligence exercise to take over. I admire most his work in making Guthrie a Malaysian company in that successful ‘dawn raid’ case. So,given his stature and his credentials, what he did about Talam is no surprise. Knowing him, it is, to me, ‘chicken feed’ to him. I am sure the BN people know the real thing that was going on about this whole Talam affair but they choose to deny it because they don’t believe that the Selangor government could do that and they were also taken by surprise or schoked even to see speed the Selangor government under Menteri besar Tan Sri Khalid achieve that feat.
Thank for very much for the detailed explanation, Nathaniel. Really appreaciate the effort you took the explain from cradle to grave to give me a better picture.
This Talam episode clearly shows the hypocrisy of the ruling BN government especially of MCA and its mouthpiece, Chua Tee Yong.(CTY) As mentioned in this article the “going on” took place during the stewardship of the previous two Umno Menteri Besar, yet all the BN components parties were quiet about the “going on” in their business transaction Talam/BN Selangor Government. And suddenly with the approach of 13GE and especially MCA with its avow declaration if its looses heavy in the coming 13 GE, it will pull out its representation in the Government, Chua Tee Yong (CTY) the aspiring candidate for the future MCA president post, jump into the fray hoping to make use of his dubious qualification as an acoutant to make public a set of figures which to any layman appear real that the rescue package by the Pakatan Selangor government under Khalid Ibrahim is in fact a good cover up act to hoodwink the public into believing that the Selangor Pakatan Government is indeed doing something right to recover the debt from Talam Corporation. Thank you for your article which explain the other side of the dirty coin.
I am a Johnny Come Lately to this article. I wish to thank Nathaniel for such a lucid presentation of a complex coperation between the government and the private sector. May be there will be more to come.
LCK, apparently CTY went to RMIT for his a-cow-ting (or was it a-kau-tim degree?), became a chartered accountant and then obtained an MBA (More Bad Advise). Apparently he ‘worked’ for an undisclosed GLC. Wonder why it was undisclosed. A scandal in the making or something he’s ashame of? Anyone know which GLC?