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Days of Reflection for MM Lee Kuan Yew

September 11, 2010

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/world/asia/11lee.html?pagewanted=1

The New York Times: The Saturday Profile

Days of Reflection for Man Who Defined Singapore

by Seth Mydans (published: September 10, 2010)

Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore

“SO, when is the last leaf falling?” asked Lee Kuan Yew, the man who made Singapore in his own stern and unsentimental image, nearing his 87th birthday and contemplating age, infirmity and loss.

“I can feel the gradual decline of energy and vitality,” said Mr. Lee, whose “Singapore model” of economic growth and tight social control made him one of the most influential political figures of Asia. “And I mean generally, every year, when you know you are not on the same level as last year. But that’s life.”

In a long, unusually reflective interview last week, he talked about the aches and pains of age and the solace of meditation, about his struggle to build a thriving nation on this resource-poor island, and his concern that the next generation might take his achievements for granted and let them slip away.

He was dressed informally in a windbreaker and running shoes in his big, bright office, still sharp of mind but visibly older and a little stooped, no longer in day-to-day control but, for as long as he lives, the dominant figure of the nation he created.

But in these final years, he said, his life has been darkened by the illness of his wife and companion of 61 years, bedridden and mute after a series of strokes.“I try to busy myself,” he said, “but from time to time in idle moments, my mind goes back to the happy days we were up and about together.” Agnostic and pragmatic in his approach to life, he spoke with something like envy of people who find strength and solace in religion. “How do I comfort myself?” he asked. “Well, I say, ‘Life is just like that.’ ”

“What is next, I do not know,” he said. “Nobody has ever come back.” The prime minister of Singapore from its founding in 1965 until he stepped aside in 1990, Mr. Lee built what he called “a first-world oasis in a third-world region” — praised for the efficiency and incorruptibility of his rule but accused by human rights groups of limiting political freedoms and intimidating opponents through libel suits.

His title now is minister mentor, a powerful presence within the current government led by his son, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. The question that hovers over Singapore today is how long and in what form his model may endure once he is gone.

Always physically vigorous, Mr. Lee combats the decline of age with a regimen of swimming, cycling and massage and, perhaps more important, an hour-by-hour daily schedule of meetings, speeches and conferences both in Singapore and overseas. “I know if I rest, I’ll slide downhill fast,” he said. When, after an hour, talk shifted from introspection to geopolitics, the years seemed to slip away and he grew vigorous and forceful, his worldview still wide ranging, detailed and commanding.

And yet, he said, he sometimes takes an oblique look at these struggles against age and sees what he calls “the absurdity of it.”

“I’m reaching 87, trying to keep fit, presenting a vigorous figure, and it’s an effort, and is it worth the effort?” he said. “I laugh at myself trying to keep a bold front. It’s become my habit. I just carry on.”

HIS most difficult moments come at the end of each day, he said, as he sits by the bedside of his wife, Kwa Geok Choo, 89, who has been unable to move or speak for more than two years. She had been by his side, a confidante and counselor, since they were law students in London.

“She understands when I talk to her, which I do every night,” he said. “She keeps awake for me; I tell her about my day’s work, read her favorite poems.” He opened a big spreadsheet to show his reading list, books by Jane Austen, Rudyard Kipling and Lewis Carroll as well as the sonnets of Shakespeare.

Lately, he said, he had been looking at Christian marriage vows and was drawn to the words: “To love, to hold and to cherish, in sickness and in health, for better or for worse till death do us part.”

“I told her, ‘I would try and keep you company for as long as I can.’ That’s life. She understood.” But he also said: “I’m not sure who’s going first, whether she or me.”

At night, hearing the sounds of his wife’s discomfort in the next room, he said, he calms himself with 20 minutes of meditation, reciting a mantra he was taught by a Christian friend: “Ma-Ra-Na-Tha.”

The phrase, which is Aramaic, comes at the end of St. Paul’s First Epistle to the Corinthians, and can be translated in several ways. Mr. Lee said that he was told it means “Come to me, O Lord Jesus,” and that although he is not a believer, he finds the sounds soothing.

“The problem is to keep the monkey mind from running off into all kinds of thoughts,” he said. “A certain tranquillity settles over you. The day’s pressures and worries are pushed out. Then there’s less problem sleeping.”

He brushed aside the words of a prominent Singaporean writer and social critic, Catherine Lim, who described him as having “an authoritarian, no-nonsense manner that has little use for sentiment.”

“She’s a novelist!” he cried. “Therefore, she simplifies a person’s character,” making what he called a “graphic caricature of me.” “But is anybody that simple or simplistic?”

The stress of his wife’s illness is constant, he said, harder on him than stresses he faced for years in the political arena. But repeatedly, in looking back over his life, he returns to his moment of greatest anguish, the expulsion of Singapore from Malaysia in 1965, when he wept in public.

That trauma presented him with the challenge that has defined his life, the creation and development of a stable and prosperous nation, always on guard against conflict within its mixed population of Chinese, Malays and Indians.

“We don’t have the ingredients of a nation, the elementary factors,” he said three years ago in an interview with the International Herald Tribune, “a homogeneous population, common language, common culture and common destiny.”

Younger people worry him, with their demands for more political openness and a free exchange of ideas, secure in their well-being in modern Singapore. “They have come to believe that this is a natural state of affairs, and they can take liberties with it,” he said. “They think you can put it on auto-pilot. I know that is never so.”

The kind of open political combat they demand would inevitably open the door to race-based politics, he said, and “our society will be ripped apart.”

A political street fighter, by his own account, he has often taken on his opponents through ruinous libel suits.

He defended the suits as necessary to protect his good name, and he dismissed criticisms by Western reporters who “hop in and hop out” of Singapore as “absolute rubbish.”

In any case, it is not these reporters or the obituaries they may write that will offer the final verdict on his actions, he said, but future scholars who will study them in the context of their day.

“I’m not saying that everything I did was right,” he said, “but everything I did was for an honorable purpose. I had to do some nasty things, locking fellows up without trial.”

And although the leaves are already falling from the tree, he said, the Lee Kuan Yew story may not be over yet.

He quoted a Chinese proverb: Do not judge a man until his coffin is closed.“Close the coffin, then decide,” he said. “Then you assess him. I may still do something foolish before the lid is closed on me.”

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45 Responses to “Days of Reflection for MM Lee Kuan Yew”

  1. MM Lee led a purpose driven life and will finish well. I admire his leadership and his intellectualism and brilliance. He is to me a philosopher king who built Singapore into a modern hub for international finance, research, medical services, high end precision engineering, education, and regional tourism. His love for his wife and confidante of 61 years is admirable. –Din Merican

  2. We must also thanks LKY for the prosperity he brings to the people of Johorean and certain percentage of Malaccan. They bring back revenues every year and improved the quality of life in their respective families, peace. etc…
    “When I admire the wonders of a sunset or the beauty of the moon, my SOUL expands in the worship of the creator, said Mahatma Gandhi.”

  3. first time heard someone from across the causeway like ben
    gratifying a man who contributed to their prosperity.
    how much more should a singaporean say?
    if lky were a person like a revered thai king, i’m sure everyone
    will bow in respect. but we say grace to our different gods or ourselves.
    although he needs power to run this country, he’s never one
    clamering for praises. i take off my humble hat!

  4. I admire and have high respects for Lee Kuan Yew.

    He made the little red dot, which is resource-scarced, competitive and well-known on the world stage.

    He made the streets safe for Singaporeans. He believes that education is key to nation-building and invested billions in the youngs. Literary rate is almost 100%. Children who skipped school will be visited by an officer from the ministry of education…investigation and help will be offered.

    Public transport works like clock-work. He builds subsidised housing for Singaporeans and to-date, 80% of its citizens own one while 20% own private properties. So, everyone has a roof over his head. Even the poor and down are given rented 1-room flat to stay.

    In short, Singaporeans live comfortably in a harmonious environment. Ladies can have a meal in a food court or hawker centre with their handbags by their side without worrying about snatch-thefts. This is a no no in Malaysia!

    Singapore is also clean, making the place very liveable!

  5. LKY has done a miracle for Singapore however I question his success rate if his governing principles are applied to Malaysia, mainly due to the size differential. He was and is still god in Singapore. What he needed and still need is God. For his sake the sooner he sees the light (hes 87) to accept God as his personal leader and not rely on his self god principle his remaining years will be more comforting.

  6. Lets face it , SIngapore was allowed to leave because the majority of its population was chinese. With no natural resources, many then believed SIngapore will rot in between Malaysia and Indonesia. BUT LKY’s vision turned SIngapore into what it is today … at least 30 years ahead of Malaysia.

    Malaysia for all of its natural resources have been left trailing Singapore. I wont be surprise we will go begging to Singapore in the near future.

  7. Brian

    I think the size would not matter to LKY. It was his dedication to ensure that the Singapore Civil Service was geared towards public and not self service. And to do that LKY perfected the carrot and stick approach, you get well taken care of if you obey, and if you failed, you get the stick, or exit the civil service.

    In Malaysia, the entire government is geared towards rewarding people without merit. There is no public sector accountability in Malaysia, and few of populace trust the police force. Malaysia’s revenues are used for making a select few rich or expanding in whie elephants, while in Singapore the revenues are to ensure continual prosperity, growth and improvement of human capital.

    Malaysians must be satisfied with the current government performance because they are performing to the objective of self service.

    Until such time Malaysians are willing to give up the special status, and until such time Malaysians are willing to put in a government to serve the country, Singapore will always be the alpha male of the troupe in the region.

    The size of the country that one has to govern, has nothing to do with the sincerity to contribute to the good of the Country. LKY skills were in managing people, and he was always on a constant lookout for smart and dedicated people and not brown nosers or ball carriers. I have not have reason to believe that the Malaysian government appointees are selected based on their capability and dedication after Tun Dr Ismail left us.

  8. The Impermanence that is Life…..and LKY knows it well from the reminisces above…..in the dim twilight of his Life he knows …” there is a Veil through which I can not see;there is a Door to which I have no Key….the Mystery & Certainty of Death .

    Have the Deepest Respect for LEE KUAN YEW !

  9. My generation grew up with LKY. We have gone through tumultuous periods in Singapore’s history and I, for one, pays tribute to this giant of a man.

    Singapore’s brand of politics will never work in Malaysia due to the difference in philosophy. Malaysian politics is strictly race based while LKY advocated a Malaysian Malaysia. His is strict meritocracy (even now Mahathir says those who advocate meritocracy are racist).

    Beyond the obvious success that he wrought, there is something else worth noting – he gave the minority races, particularly the Malays some degree of comfort living in a majority Chinese majority country.

    What many do not realise but take for granted is that the National Anthenm is in a minority language and so are the commands in the various uniformed bodies.

    And there is a mosque or at least a surau in every housing estate in Singapore. And even gave free education to Malays up till university level until only several years ago.

    I doubt if this happens in any other part of the world. This is what true multi culturalism is all about. And I have absolutely no problem with that.

    We may not always agree with him, but what shines through is that we feel he genuinely feels strongly to do the utmost for the nation and not to enrich himself.

    It is sad that the leaves are falling……..
    _________
    Patrick,

    Autumn must naturally give way to the cold winter. Death is that winter and it comes to everyone. But let history will be the judge of LKY’s legacy when the coffin closes. History will give LKY an A+++… for his contributions.

    I admire him for being a great husband, a super dad, and wonderful grandfather and for his undying and intense love for his ailing wife and confidante of 61 years. Behind the tough exterior (as strict disciplinarian and a Confucian mandarin), LKY is capable of intense love and full of compassion. In that sense, the NY Times interview is revealing of the real LKY.

    As someone grew up in Malaysia under Tunku, I saw what Singapore was like in the 1960s in the early years of LKY premiership (PAP formed the government in 1959) since I used to go to University of Malaya in Singapore for sports. We must pay a tribute to the great and brilliant LKY and his Lieutenants (The Old Guards) for what Singapore is today. But of even greater significance is that LKY has mentored new leaders, leaving the country in good hands. They will not let him down.

    LKY has shown us that good leaders can be identified, put through the rolling mill of practical politics and tested before they are put in positions of power. The PAP system of identifying them is well designed to serve this purpose. It is clear to me that Singapore is very successful because of honest, competent and accountable government.–Din Merican

  10. Din, i think it’s about time that Singapore should give you a Singapore passport and an identity card.

    Bravo Din, what a praise.
    __________
    I am sure you are Singaporean since I can monitor the location of your computer via google map. If so, how come you are so taksub with the UMNO-BN government. Maybe you are a drop out from Singapore system which promotes meritocracy, not NEP and mediocrity.–Din Merican

  11. Democracy is about how we treat our minorities. Malaysia does not treat her minorities well.

    Verdict? Guilty by reason of democracy.

  12. Alluding, perhaps, to “the nasty thing of locking fellows up without trial” LKY says he did so for an honourable purpose. He may be absolutely right. Drasatic times required drastic measures. He had to put away his strongest political opponents who were seen as real threat at that time to Singapore’s survival and future. But the mistake possibly was keeping them in detention for a period longer than ncessary. They could have been released after 5-6 years. A few of them were held for 15-20 years and more. Not only they sufferred their families too. Perhaps the lenghty incarceration may be one action that LKY regrets very much now.

    Compared to LKY, Tunku was more magnanimous to his political foes and fallen friends. He gave a second life to Singapore’s ex-Chief Minister, Lim Yew Hock (who lost the 1959 GE to LKY) by appointing him as a senator and an ambassador.

    LKY did all he did for the good of the country. I have read about many figures in other countries being hailed or honoured as ‘father of the nation’ But for me LKY is truly the father of the nation because he developed Singapore from what it was to what it is now – a creation that I witnessed all during my lifetime.

  13. Father Creator of Singapore? That he is.

    History will probably ‘judge’ him as a relatively benign despot with high intelligence, western education imbued in Confucian idealism, who brooks no dissent. Very much like the God of Israel.

    He certainly wielded his authority well, otherwise a tiny speck like Singapore would not have become what it is now – a true economic tiger. His insight, foresight and discernment is prodigious. What he lacked, he made up with vigor and force of personality.

    In his twilight years, he reflects and contemplates agnosticism or atheism that has enabled him to do what he has done. He realizes that is no immortality for both him nor his Singapore. So now he turns to “Maranatha”, which is strange – for his life and morality reveals more of an “Om Padme Hum” type persona. But then God works in mysterious ways..

    A word of caution about the embedded Maranatha “mantra”. This has been practiced by the Orthodox monastic & mystics together with the “Kyrie Eleison” (Lord, have Mercy) as contemplative prayers since ancient times. It requires a ‘spiritual’ mentor or guide in order that the practitioner doesn’t end up in what we call a “spiritual emergency state” or for lack of a better term ‘Kundalini Syndrome’, somewhat akin to Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome. I wonder whether LKY, has a mentor?

  14. A great man by whatever measure – something where Tun Apanama Dia pales in comparison. His love and his dedication for his wife is such an inspiration by itself.

    I once met him by chance along a path along Brighthill Drive where he was doing his morning jog and visiting his buddy, an abbot living in a temple there, of course I was taken aback, the ex-PM sitting on a bench resting and sipping water from a water bottle.

    We spoke a little. He was friendly and actually welcomed me, a Malaysian, to continue to help us build this small country. I told him I am making money and taking the money home, and he just said it simply, “that’s normal, as long as you continue to do the work you’re paid to do, bake bread and send them out to the shops…”. Until today, his thinking on this point still baffles me.

  15. Menyalak-er,

    Yes….it seems that LKY is well aware of the negative states that you refer to:
    “spiritual emergency state”
    “Kundalini Syndrome”

    by his last statement….”I may still do something foolish before the lid is closed on me.”……But the Chinese Mystical Daoists best described this mental/spiritual decay as “DISINTEGRATION INTO CHAOS !!! ….can you identify any of our “Leaders” or even their “Spouses” who had momentarily collapse into… Disintegration into Chaos… and did incredibly “insane” acts !!!

    Hidup Malaysia !!!

  16. In the late 60s as a young naval midshipman he told us Quote Quick money is not to true to believe Unquote. He knew most of us Malay will look for quick money as we were open to all kinds of gives . Up to today I still hold him as a wise man and leader with what he said I am happy to be as what I am now. All my family lived on halal intake and we are all in good health. I must thank him for having warmed us but most did not take his words. Sad to note most did not last up to today …

  17. Dear fairplay, if you are making a comparison between LKY and our present, or past-present local lanuns, perompaks and their thingama-jigs (or is it -ciks) – no need lah.

    Yes, the Tao does teach about chaos and the veil. I have a high regard of the Tao-te-ch’ng, as the Way. In fact, Lao Tzu (if he existed) was very much like the Greek philosophers, Biblical prophets Elijah-Isaiah-Jeremiah, Confucius, Siddharta Gautama and Zoroaster, during the Axial Age (800-200bce). I just can’t (not don’t) understand the syncrestic religion of the Overseas Chinese.

    LKY’s philosophy in life was pragmatism laced with a good deal of realism. He combined well, his Western and Eastern worldviews, but he lacked one essential ‘ousa’ (Grk. for ‘essence’). That of forgiveness and empathy for his perceived enemies. To give is to receive. He was non-religious in culture and in deeds, except when it suited him and therefore had no superstitions. Due to his logical thinking, he saw the world in monochrome black and white, without the kaleidoscope of colours that would have made him one of the greatest leaders in history. The ‘kiasu-kiasi’ idiom is just a manifestation of this type of thinking. Do i respect him? Assuredly. But he was unable to make the Singaporeans self-reflect and see the paradox of their spiritually inhibited lives. Singapore has an aging population, their youth are migrating en masse too and the vacuum is being filled by foreigners. But that is another story..

    Comparing Singapore with us, is like comparing a hatched chick and an unfertilized or mal-fertilized egg.

  18. There’s no comparison between LKY and our Umno leaders past or present. This is the sad truth. Unless we have someone of his stature in our midst Malaysia will remain stagnant.

    I sincerely hope the Umnoputras will come to term with this disparity and pick up the pieces. But time is running out on them. To progress Umno has to go. Go where? I don’t give a damn. Just go and let the rakyat decide what’s best for them.

  19. To progress Umno has to go. Go where? I don’t give a damn.

    Wah, lepas kena lemang dengan rendang Tok Cik kita, bukan main bertenaga lagi.

    Jangan marah sangat Tok Cik, pasal nanti Umno pi, mai puak lain pula pun tak tentu juga. Mungkin 2 kali 5. Bukan tak nampak ada 2-3 ekor katak kat Perak.

  20. “Maybe you are a drop out from Singapore system which promotes meritocracy, not NEP and mediocrity.–Din Merican”

    Din, you once said that Dr. Mahathir is your family friend. I understand how you felt not being able to get anything from Dr. Mahathir being a family friend during his tenure.

    I could also felt of your frustration with Dr. Mahathir.

    Praising LKY and Singapore is a way out of these frustration.

    May your attempt to win sympathy from Singapore succeeded and eventually will make you a Singaporean after all there’s nothing in Malaysia that can be near to where Singapore is today.

    Din, frustration in your twilight years will effect your health badly.

    So Din Mercian, as the saying goes “HUJAN EMAS NEGERI ORANG HUJAN BATU NEGERI SENDIRI”

    “JADI LAH SEPERTI PADI JANGAN JADI SEPERTI LALANG”
    _________
    Sorry for you, pal. Too taksub. I am in the best of health. I have achieved what I set out to do with my life. But I want to change the rules of the game towards meritocracy. Each according his ability unhindered is the way forward.–Din Merican

  21. I Still Know Who She Is** **
    ** **
    It was a busy morning, about 8:30, when an elderly gentleman in his 80s
    arrived to have stitches removed from his thumb. He said he was in a hurry
    as he had an appointment at 9:00.**
    ** **
    I took his vital signs and had him take a seat, knowing it would be over an
    hour before someone would **be** able to see him. I saw him looking at his
    watch and decided since I wasn**�**t busy with another patient, I would
    evaluate his wound. On examining it I saw it was well healed, so I talked to
    one of the doctors and got the needed supplies to remove his sutures and
    redress his wound.** **
    While taking care of his wound, I asked him if he had another doctor’s
    appointment this morning, as he was in such a hurry. The gentleman told me
    no, that he needed to go to the nursing home to eat breakfast with his wife.
    ** **
    **I inquired as to her health. He told me that she had been there for a
    while! As she is a victim of **Alzheimer’s disease**.** **
    As we talked, I asked if she would be upset if he was a bit late. He replied
    that she no longer knew who he was, that she had not recognized him in five
    years now.** **
    **I was surprised and asked him, ‘And you still go every morning, even
    though she doesn’t know who you are?’** **
    **He smiled as he patted my hand and said**, **’She doesn’t know me but I
    still know who she is.’** I had to hold back tears as he left, I had goose
    bumps on my arm and thought, **
    **’That is the kind of love I want in my life. True love is neither physical
    nor **romantic**’**.** **
    **True love is an acceptance of all that is, has been, will be, and will not
    be. **

    I feel this is apt for LKY. I hope that M’sia will one day have our LKY and get the country back on track too.

  22. Wa eppen? Kat, at first you couldn’t connect the dots. Now you have blanks punctuated by asteriskos!

  23. Apologies it was an email that I got . I thought was such a beautiful story . I sorta cut and paste!Made me cry abit. Thought it was nice to have here .

  24. Harry should listen to this song every morning. It will ease the pain. If that fails then perhaps an overdose of paxils may do the trick.

  25. Yes Kathy. That is what the Christian marriage vows assert. But the reality is far from this ideal. LKY, is ‘virtous’ on this count and now seeks a meaning to his life and existence, despite all he has done and can still do. If he had seeked it earlier, he would not have been able to do what he had done! See the paradox and the irony, that i alluded to recently? Perhaps you’re overly ‘romantic’ lah..

    You cannot have another LKY (at this stage of his life), who can handle all the rotteness and corruption that politics dishes out. I give you an example – Dr. Sun Yat-Sun, the Founder of the Chinese Republic who is revered by all Chinese – espescially so, in PRC and Taiwan. He was in fact a fairly ineffectual leader and a ‘compromise’ candidate as the first President of China. Why? He was Christian to the core (Congrgationalist, like Ronald Reagan). He was unable to resist warlords like Gen Yuan Shi-Kai, for fear of a civil war.He had 3 wives, although not all at once – he was ‘forced’ to become a polygamist at one time because he couldn’t divorce the first and yet refused to take the third as a concubine (the second was a (?)Penang Peranakan who had ‘disappeared’), as it clashed with his Christian values. In the end as he lay dying of liver cancer in a Peking hospital he proclaimed: “I am Christian first, Chinese second, nothing else matters..” A very conflicted fellow – whose real genius was being there at the right time and place. No, a Sun Yat-Sun like persona will not be able to survive the bestial politics in present day Malaysia.

    You see, Malaysia needs a fairly authorative leader – resolute, intelligent, idealistic to a certain extent but pragmatic otherwise, brave and bold – yet humble, honest, nonhypocritical and ‘relatively’ incorruptable. Mana ada?

  26. lky is too good for his own good. His righteousness is his downfall. In all court cases against his opponents he has shown that he does not need God. He was always right. He has not for one moment attribute his success in governing S’pore to the Almighty.

  27. But Singapore’s prosperity was not all to one man…but one man directed a dedicated and talented crew to steer a vast mosquito infested swamp full of coolies to be the brightest in ASEAN and to live happily in spite of limited land and resources.

    Mahathir had his chance but for more than twenty years he steered a country full of gas, oil, rubber, tin and an established civil service to fight minorities in his own country, and the outcome is we now have a divided nation and a corrupted civil service and policemen we do not trust.

    While Brig Gen Lee is looking at steering all Singaporeans to the next century, Mukriz’s focus is the same as his father, how to ensure minorities are hampered in his country.

    You See – God blessed Malaysians with resources, but he also gave us the short end of the stick. Migrants from Indonesia, India and other Pseudo malays claiming rights to a race they do not truly belong to, but because of their religion was malayanized to led muslims to ensure that non muslims must be hampered in the name of Islam.

    This wholesale program of discrimination entered the education system and is totally entrenched. Malaysia faces two generation of people brainwashed with this idea of racial supremacy. Until the education system is cleansed, it will take years for young Malays to go through the learning curve that many of the Malays in this blog have now come to terms with – you cannot build a country by perpetuating discrimination on racial or religious differences. Until then all the minorities can try to do is to outsmart the system or leave or accept that they are strangers in their own country.

    Of course there will always be a few outstanding individuals that would stand up and fight for their right as a citizen, not necessary on racial grounds – Lim Guan Eng as an example.

    But most of the minorities have been cowed into submission, and will cluster in their own ethnic enclaves to shield against the daily onslaught against their ethnicity. That is the Malaysia we have now.

  28. “..cowed into submission,..”

    I’d rather not use the word ‘cowed’ so freely, if i were you james. Unless you know the meaning of “horns of consecration”.. The support for the recently extinct creature called Be-End was conditional to the economic wellbeing and oppurtunities in part and to the intimidation tactics and mass deception by the authorities. Although the carrot and stick approach and continued vote buying still works, it’s becoming much more difficult.

    In the case of the monolith called Singapore Inc., the young aren’t all that enamoured with the do and do, don’t and don’ts of their parents. Materialistic societies can only do so much.. If you ask a young Singaporean what are his/her ideals, what do you think will be the answer?

  29. I’m sick of you guys comparing Malaysia to Singapore ad nauseum. UMNO should do us a favor and plan for the invasion of Singapore. Put Tok CIk in charge. Then we would have nothing to talk about – since there would be no more Singapore. Just Malaysia.

  30. Tok Cik in charge? What with my battered Cooper S in the lead? Where do you expect me to end? In the Johore Straits perhaps. Well, I don’t mind if Sharizat is there with me.

  31. What got into you Mongkut Bean? Too much rendang and ketupat or too much tuak?
    UMNO should do us a favor and plan for the invasion of Singapore.- Bean

    You think the folks in UMNO have enough grey matter upstairs to plan for the invasion? How would they do it? With the submarines that won’t submerge? The armored carriers that would sink in the mud? With the Sukhoi and MiG’s? Or maybe they can cycle across the causeway and take Singapore by surprise.
    Maybe the UMNO fellers think if they cut the causeway and second link Singapore would just float away. Aiyah Mongkut Bean watching too much Selma Hayek now Bean hallucinating.

  32. Bean

    Invasion of Singapore? Our armored vehicles will make good target practice, and if nobody can get hurt in a war, sure, lets see how our forces will get destroyed in a day, and how far up Johor the Singaporeans will come. We probably find out all the armory dont work because the parts been sold to Uruguay again. Tok Chik could probably tell us lots more, about the likely outcome. I am sure Malaysia also has a plan for invading Singapore too.

    Bean, sure you are sick of Singapore. I know of many Malaysians that cannot think well when it comes to a discussion of Singapore simply because Singaporeans have an attitude about Malaysia. Can you blame them with the type of news and the racial infighting in Malaysia? Or can you blame them about the knowledge of our kind of government and education system?
    __________
    Not war, but networking and strategic partnership with Singapore, James!!–Din Merican

  33. Whats wrong Mr Bean? if you care to expand your thoughts may be we can understand better. Cheers

  34. Meyalak-er

    Singapore is not all gold. The poorer end of the society hates Singpore. The youngsters dont really like singapore because they are in a cage full of restrictions. But that is how young people are. When we were young, we could not careless about prosperity, economy, because the responsibility of putting food on the table was not yet handed on to us.

    The problem in Singapore is also the rigidness of their education system. It is the classic way of education – memorize and practice for perfection. They need to go towards an education based on creativity for their next step in improving their human capital. This is their weakness now. They also need to give the younger generation some room for rebellious behavior – that society has been tightly controlled because of the need to move from a coolie society to a mandarin society. But you cannot have your cake and eat it too..or can you ?

  35. Mr. Bean, you must understand the comparison between Malaysia and Singapore are being made on economic terms. From an individualistic view, Singapore would be a shitplace to be in for a rebellious youngster. I am glad that my formative years was in Malaysia and in those days with Malay friends. I had very few chinese friends because most of them were more concerned about their future, and more concerned about getting better scores than having fun. And Malays were sincere friends, not out to get something but out to have fun and free of ulterior motives. Malays are good people, until they get corrupted by UMNO.

  36. @Menyalak-er (12 Sept ,8.06pm)

    Never say never , I still believe in miracles. If we ask hard enough ,Malaysiamay just get thet leader you speak of.

  37. I have a better idea. Why not turn the tap on Singapore?

  38. Fools rush where angels dread.

    Don’t invite troubele at a time when your own house is racially divided and one section is praying for divine intervention and invasion (of Singapore) could be just that. You will then see the true emergence of real Malaysia with a Singapore-Sabah-Sarawak combine and the present Malaysia reduced to good old Malaya minus Penang and Malacca possibly.

    Chew on it, if you have the gumption.

  39. Bean

    Singapore is ready for the tap from Johor to go dry.

    The Bedok wastewater plant based on Zenon membranes developed in Canada(now owned by GE Water), is a total water recovery system. This plant recovery all the water content from shit, and then pumps the recovered water into the reservoirs.

    The singaporeans have been very quiet about their desalination capabilities. They have plants in place to be able to cover the dry tap scenario.

    I believe the dry tap scenario is one of the triggers that would see the influx of uniformed and highly trained and dedicated Singaporeans on Johor. I dont have the inside information, but I do about desalination because that is my expertise. The scenario is as predictable as sand on beaches.

  40. Din

    Let me share some beautiful words taken from Henry Newman’s Second Spring. For those who have read the book Exorcist, this passage was attributed to Rev Fr Merrim.

    I hope fellow contributors do not think this out of place within this topic. These few words speak of hope and renewal.

    “We mourn the blossoms of May, for they are to wither; but we know, that May is one day to have its revenge upon November, by the revolution of that solemn circle which never stops,–which teaches us always, in our height of hope, ever to be sober, and in our depth of desolation, never to despair.”

  41. “This plant recovery all the water content from shit, and then pumps the recovered water into the reservoirs’ James

    From shit? Wow! Soon we will have shitheads governing that island. What a fitting description for the gay capital of Asia.

  42. yeah right! All the faults, restrictions and suppression of Spore under LKY makes them the failure they are today…imagine if they have the freedom to Bolehdeal & Bolehwheel ala apanama regime. Wow!

    The last Bolehleaf had fallen 20yrs ago, and from that last leaf shalt rise a rot and stink.

  43. I believe given his resourcefulness, LKY would have make Malaysia a better place had we not separated those days.LKY is a farsighted man who saw the usefulness of the English language which became the medium of instruction in Singapore, with the mother tongue made the compulsory second language.Today, the country despite its size stands tall and immigrants flock to make it their home as the country practises meritocracy. The skilled and talented are roped in to preserve the uniqueness of the nation and students who are deprived of a place in higher institutes of learning found themselves welcome and embrace themselves for their better future once they land on its shores.

    I would not be surprised if one day the PM of this small nation is an ex Malaysian, just like the new found Australian Finance Minister who landed in a foreign land and found recognition despite her immigrant status. Today’s world is borderless and only the fittest survive.

    As such, let’s stop finding faults within ourselves and instead learn to live and accept our differences and blend harmoniously despite our ethnic differences. The most capable should be identified to lead in order to bring our country to greater heights if we intend to be better than Singapore and the rest of Asia.
    _________
    Welcome and thanks for your comments. Lim, I agree with you. Diversity is our strength and competition makes us strong, resilient and vibrant. Malaysia is for all as we are at the crossroads between great civilisations. My paternal great grandma is Chinese, my mom is from Sri Lanka and my paternal grandma is a Malay. One of my daughters is half Cambodian whose maternal grandma is a Chinese from Cholon, Vietnam. I am Malaysian. –Din Merican

  44. Bean, I am not kidding you. The plant is has a fully automated state of the art system capable of recovering over 90% of water content from shit water. They even bottled it and give you to drink.

    All the water in the globe is recycled. The zenon process simply short cuts the natural process. And to avoid potential contamination, the Bedok Plant has a triple treatment process, a sand separation, a membrane ultrafiltration, a reverse osmosis separation, and lastly a ozonation process.

    It is open to the public and you should visit it. I think you can also visit the on line site but I cannot remember. There is a publication on line go checkout :http://www.pub.gov.sg/research/Key_Projects/Pages/Membrane2.aspx

  45. a very intelligent man like MM Lee now comes to his senses and picks the right religion (Christianity)


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