The Rosli Dahlan Trial gets a new Judge in the 11th Hour!
June 27, 2010
The uncanny similarities in the Trials of Anwar Ibrahim and Rosli Dahlan
by Din Merican
I worked with Anwar Ibrahim in Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR). I know his values, his ideals and his political vision. I supported his slogan to struggle for a better Malaysia.(Harapan Baru Untuk Malaysia). Circumstances change and I have chosen to do research and some serious writing.
Quite apart from all that, I also know him personally. My personal knowledge of him was the basis for my belief that the sodomy charges were nothing more than political persecutions. Many Malaysians believe these shameful events will forever remain as a stain in the political and legal history of the country.
The present global political climate is one of openness, of transparency and good governance and of possibilities and hope. The hope of a better world is revived with the departure of George W. Bush and the recent defeat of Blair-Brown Laborites in USA and UK respectively. These leaders of the two superpowers, who lied to the world in order to invade Iraq, left office. The audacity of hope was reflected in the rise of Barrack Hussein Obama as President of the USA.
UMNO rejects better relations with Pakatan controlled states
In Malaysia, the hope for check and balance appears to be delivered on March 8, 2008 when BN lost its 2/3 majority in Parliament and 5 states fell to Pakatan Rakyat, a loose and now troubled coalition of PKR, DAP and PAS. The BN federal government was given a chance to show its acceptance of the concept of federalism by working with the state governments in these opposition controlled Pakatan Rakyat (PR) states. Did BN, as dominated by UMNO, accept this opportunity for change? No, it did not.
Instead, UMNO went on its usual machiavellian way to undermine the opposition governments in these 5 states. Being in control of the executive arm of government, UMNO used the MACC to achieve its objective of harassing, intimidating and forcing cross-overs of the weak PR wakil rakyats so that UMNO/BN can seize control and form the government in these states.
Perak Saga
What UMNO could not achieve via the ballot box, they did by the force of might. So, the PR government of Perak fell. The people’s hopes and reverence in the Sultan of Perak, as the former Lord President and the most enlightened of the Malaysian royalty, who would defend the Rule of Law evaporated almost immediately. Reverence turned to scorn.
Teoh Beng Hock Case
In Selangor, the abuses of the MACC is best illustrated by the death of Teoh Beng Hock, killed by being thrown out of a window of the MACC Selangor’s office. The attempt to cover up this murder incensed Malaysians generally but more so the Chinese community. As an appeasement, an Inquest was held, only to achieve the objective of relegating it to become stale news, as it now appears to be.
The culmination of absurdity is when the Home Minister, Dato’ Hishammuddin Hussein Onn, and the de facto law Minister, Dato’ Nazri Aziz, publicly abused and challenged the famous Thai forensic expert, Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand, as an unreliable foreign expert witness. . Before doing that, they should have referred to the judgement of Judge Supang Lian who had denounced IGP Musa Hassan as an “unreliable witness whose evidence is not to be believed”.
Political Tsunami of GE12(March 8, 2008)
The results of GE 12 brought about a realisation to UMNO that Sodomy I did not quite finish off Anwar. UMNO’s slogan that Anwar Ibrahim is a political has-been was like “senjata makan tuan”. The unprecedented success of the PR alliance has resurrected Anwar as the saviour of real change in Malaysia. UMNO realised that it could be in grave danger come next GE13. UMNO needed to bring Anwar down for the second time. There was a ready model in Sodomy I!
Sodomy 1
In Sodomy I, we saw the might of the executive (Mahathir bin Mohamad) in suborning the judiciary. The shameful legal writings of the various compromised judges are all over the wall, especially of that “Irrelevant” Judge Augustine Paul, who is now facing divine judgment in his grave. It is there in the legal annals. Just open these law journals and you will understand the trauma that the judiciary went through since the sacking of the former Lord President of Malaysia, Tun Salleh Abbas. Unlike the Sultan of Perak, this commoner Lord President was made of sterner stuff. His refusal to yield to UMNO’s demands, changed the judicial landscape permanently.
Today, Malaysia has the distinction of having sacked its Lord President and several other Judges of the Supreme Court. If there was ever any good in the Abdullah Badawi administration, it was that his government made an apology and paid compensation to these judges. But even so, that decency is to be credited to the then Minister of Law, Dato’ Zaid Ibrahim. The irony is, today, Zaid Ibrahim is with PKR .
Devoid of any better idea, PM Najib’s “think tank” came up with Sodomy II. The setting in Sodomy II is worse, and not only because it is a poor copy of Sodomy I. The frightful scene we have today is a combination, never seen before, of the three branches of government i.e. the executive, the judiciary and the legislative, to bring down one man.
The frightening scenario is this – IGP Musa Hassan and A-G Gani, as the tested executive tool, are using all their resources to frame Anwar. The judiciary is headed by an UMNO appointed Chief Justice, Tan Sri Zaki Tun Azmi. Parliament’s Speaker, Pandikar Amin Mulia, will chair the special committee that will decide on Anwar’s fate as a member of Parliament in the APCO (Israeli infiltration) case brought about by Law and Parliament Minister, Dato’ Nazri Aziz.
I have been shuttling between the two court rooms at the Jalan Duta Courts Complex to observe Anwar’s trial and Lawyer Rosli Dahlan’s trial. Anwar’s case is receiving publicity from the main stream media (MSM), although no longer front page, because he was a former DPM, a politician and the current opposition leader. Anwar’s case is being reported by the mainstream media because there is propaganda value to demean him by publicising the alleged sexual exploits in a Malaysian society obsessed with perverted sex stories.
The Lawyer Rosli Dahlan Trial
By contrast, Lawyer Rosli’s trial is being blacked out because he is just a professional lawyer who got snared in a conspiracy to remove the director CCID, Dato Ramli Yusuff, who was about to expose IGP Musa Hassan’s complicity with the underworld. Rosli was brought down because he defied A-G Gani who wanted to release a known criminal Goh Cheng Poh @ Tengku Goh and close the case involving MAS’s RM 8 billion losses caused by its former chairman Tan Sri Tajuddin Ramli. It has now become necessary to mothball Rosli’s case into oblivion because the MACC witnesses and DPPs are now badly bashed and exposed in court as law enforcement officers who abused their powers. That the MACC is an agency that has gone rotten at its very inception is amplified by the tragedy that befell Teoh Beng Hock who, like Rosli, was just another witness, only that former ended up dead!
The case against Anwar and that of Rosli are as far apart and as unconnected as can be. Or is it? As I compared my notes on the trials of Anwar and Rosli which are taking place almost at the same time in different court rooms of the same Jalan Duta Courts Complex, I was astounded by the similarities between the two.
From the start, Anwar insisted that the present sodomy charge against him is a frame up by the Barisan National Government using IGP Musa Hassan and A-G Gani. Anwar swore he will fight this to the end. Rosli too insists that he has been fixed up by IGP Musa Hassan and A-G Gani by using the MACC. This fact seems very clear since all of the MACC witnesses have now admitted that Rosli was never a suspect for any offence. He was merely needed as a witness. Since the day he was charged, Rosli had maintained that he was a victim of a conspiracy against his client. Apparently, Rosli had been advised to make a written representation to A-G Gani to seek a withdrawal of the charge. But Rosli, like Anwar, is also a proud Leo, and has refused to be seen as begging and grovelling to a scumbag like Gani Patail. Rosli’s fight to expose this trumped up charge deserves public attention especially since the MACC is now being stripped naked in court.
The accusers in both cases are named Saiful. In Anwar’s case it is Saiful Bukhari whereas the MACC IO who lodged the report against Rosli is Saiful Ezral. In Anwar’s case, a faggot alleged Anwar buggered him. In Rosli’s case, the faggot DPP Kevin Morais lied countlessly in order to cover up his lies (see my earlier article: The Liar Kevin Morais Buried In His Lies!).
Musa Hassan (the Mattress Carrier) and Gani Patail fabricated evidence against Anwar in Sodomy I and had mercuric promotions after that to give them the powers to now orchestrate Sodomy II. These same culprits are the hidden hands in the conspiracy against Dato’ Ramli Yusuff and the false charge against Rosli.
Anwar was at one time the President of the International Islamic University (IIU). Rosli was the first batch of law graduates from IIU, and probably received his graduation scroll from Anwar.
The prosecution team against Anwar included senior DPP Nordin Hassan who was also a graduate of IIU. Nordin had a mercuric rise after Sodomy I and is now also part of the prosecution team in Sodomy II. In Rosli’s case, Dato’ Nordin Hasssan, since then promoted as Director of Prosecution MACC, was the hidden hand behind Kevin Morais’ actions. In fact the DPPs prosecuting Rosli namely DPP Dzulqarnain and DPP Sophian are also IIU graduates, both of them many years Rosli’s junior. Perhaps they learned from their senior, Nordin Hassan who prosecuted the IIU President and received fast track promotions and became a Dato’.
People like Nordin Hassan, Dzulqarnain and Sophian would do whatever that is necessary to please their bosses regardless that they sell out their comrade or brother in Islam. They are no different from graduates of the other secular universities when it comes to jockeying for positions and promotions. It mattered little to them that their actions betrayed the principles of “Am’r Maaruf, Nahy Mungkar” (Encourage good, discourage wrongdoing) that they were taught in IIU. That was just a slogan to them. It is little wonder that the Muslim world is so fraught in strife!
Mainstream Media sued by Anwar and Rosli
Anwar has sued the MSM for defaming him in their reports of his prosecution. Rosli too has sued Utusan Malaysia, The Star and The NST. Utusan Malaysia had tendered an unequivocal public apology to Rosli for its untruthful article admitting that its reports “exceeded the parameters of ethical journalism”. For all that apology, Utusan Malaysia and 15 other defendants, the MACC and their individual officers included, are now potentially liable to pay Rosli damages for RM50 million. That is what happens when you frame innocent people, they fight back!
A new Judge for the Rosli Trial
In Anwar’s case, they keep changing the goal post. Unfortunately for Rosli, the same is about to happen to him. Judge Abu Bakar Katar who has been hearing Rosli’s case which is now at its tail end, has, since 1st June, been transferred to Malacca. So when Rosli’s trial continues on Monday June, 28, it will be a different judge. This is where the similarities become more uncanny. The Judge who will take over Rosli’s case is Puan Rozilah Saleh. She was the court registrar who assisted Justice Augustine Paul in PP v Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim (No. 3). A feeling of eeriness must now envelope Rosli like being in Twilight Zone. While Rosli can only hope that Judge Rozilah would remain impartial, this whole case is sounding more and more bizarre.
These uncanny similarities may be a divine signal to both Anwar and Rosli. To Anwar, it is time that he ponders the failings of his PKR parliamentarians and state assemblymen that may be causing widespread disenchantment amongst the Malaysian electorate.. Unless Anwar identify better, stronger candidates who share his ideals and political values and vision; unless Anwar field candidates with integrity who are neither easily bought over nor intimidated; unless Anwar arrest this problem of cross-overs, the PR alliance stands in jeopardy in the next GE13.
Time for Lawyer Rosli Dahlan to champion the cause of Civil Liberties
To Rosli, it is time that he looks beyond his cushy profession and ponders if he truly cares for justice or whether it is just justice for himself when others less fortunate than him can only bend to the will of their abusers. If Rosli believes that justice is for all, then he should ponder whether the incident that befalls him now is to make him come to his true calling – to take up the cudgels of politics or fight in the cause of civil liberties by being active in the several NGOs that are badly in need of professionals of his calibre.
In his Barrack-room Ballads, Rudyard Kipling said that “East is east and West is west, and never the twain shall meet”. While Anwar and Rosli may seem as far apart as the twain, there are more uncanny similarities between them than they ever realise.







Hampir semua Rakyat Malaysia tahu akan KONSPIRASI yang dilakukan olih Penguasa-penguasa yang ZALIM.Sebagai seorang yang mengaku beragama ISLAM tapi mereka-mereka ini telah LUPA KEPADA ALLAH S.W.T YANG BERKUASA DIALAM SEMESTA.MEREKA INI TELAH LUPA KEPADA ALLAH S.W.T YANG BERKUASA.KUASA YANG ADA PADA PENZALIM-PENZALIM INI HANYA DIATAS DUNIA..INSYALLAH AKU BERHARAP DAN BERODA AGAR ALLAH S.W.T AKAN MEMBALAS PERBUATAN ZALIM MEREKA TANPA BELAS KASIHAN DENGAN HUKUMAN YANG PALING BERAT DI NERAKA JAHANAM..INSYALLAH…
sharil samad - June 27, 2010 at 11:02 am
can the AG hope to pray on Fri nights before a respected Iraqi Imam in PJ to redeem his sins from his dastardly acts? can sins be washed away like this? If one believes so, that explains his unbecoming behaviour.
aca - June 27, 2010 at 11:54 am
by the way, Kevin are you really a faggot? Is it true that you went to Britian for a holiday with your male soulmate? If so, Section 377 is for you, Kevin.
aca - June 27, 2010 at 11:56 am
Mr Din Merican,
I came across your article by accident. It is an excellent political and legal expose’ that helps Malaysians understand the intrigue that goes on. I sense a disenchantment in your very opening paragraph. Are you? Your reminder to Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim shows that you are an objective political commentator. I salute you for that.
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I am still a good friend to him. I like his intellectualism, but right now I am very critical of PKR. There is nothing personal in this. Differences of opinion are common between two independent minds. Thank you, susila, for your kind comments.–Din Merican
susila - June 27, 2010 at 11:58 am
“So when Rosli’s trial continues on Monday June, 28, it will be a different judge….While Rosli can only hope that Judge Rozilah would remain impartial, this whole case is sounding more and more bizarre.”
It is indeed bizarre to change judge at this stage. Court proceedings are now videotaped. If the testimony of Kevin Morais and other witnsess are not on tape, there can be only one conclusion – MACC adopted delaying tactic to get Judge Bakar Katar transferred. New judge has no chance to see demeanour of MACC’s lying witnesses.
I feel sorry for Rosli. Time to drop his pride or whatever ideals he thinks he is fighting for. After all, his client Dato Ramli, has been acquitted. Time to think of himself and his family. They are out to fix him and they will get him. MSM blacks out news about him and nobody really know what he is fighting for. His legal cost must also be escalating!
agcfriend - June 27, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Din Merican,
Rencana yang hebat! tapi apa kejadah kaitkan Anwar dengan Rosli. rakyat dah tak percaya Anwar! kalau nak tarik simpati pun jangan lah kaitkan dengan Anwar. Nanti orang jadi benci pada Rosli!
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Mahadi,
Kita bukan mencari simpati. Rosli tak salah, jadi tak payah kita memanjangkan pembicaraan ini. Itu lah jalan yang adil dan benar.Sama juga dengan sdr. Anwar. Jangan bersandiwara. –Din Merican
Mahadi - June 27, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Thanks for a very sobering analysis, very readable for something so serious! Frightening to as what can happen to innocent people.
Yes! PKR/PR should not offer the electorates dubious characters as candidates. They will jump like frogs. Entice people like Rosli to join your party and stand in the next GE 13!
politikus - June 27, 2010 at 12:38 pm
“can the AG hope to pray on Fri nights before a respected Iraqi Imam in PJ to redeem his sins from his dastardly acts?” – aca
What makes you think Gani Patail even prays? Yes, he joins the tahlil and yasin and those showy things. He enjoys his wine and the things that malay (make no mistake he is not malay) high society do, away from public eye. So, dont hope that he has conscience what more any sense to redeem his sins!
masayu - June 27, 2010 at 12:46 pm
“People like Nordin Hassan, Dzulqarnain and Sophian would do whatever that is necessary to please their bosses regardless that they sell out their comrade or brother in Islam.”
What makes you think they have any sense of islamic brotherhood? It is in the nature of muslims and malays like them to subvert others. That is why wise malays like Lorraine Osman would rather join the Masonic Lodge and become Freemasons. A mason will go all out to protect their masonic brothers. Muslims will betray their brothers while embracing them, unlike Brutus and very much like Judas!
yahyaalyahudi - June 27, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Mr Din,
Very accurate political analysis and very thriller style exposition of the events in our country. I think you speak for many who supported the PR governments but are now disenchanted. If DSAI does not listen to you, PR will lose rather than gain ground in next general election.
I think Anwar is also a lost cause. He has too many baggages. If PM Najib is rumoured to be linked to the Mongolian murder, Anwar has been charged twice in court. I think you do a disservice to link Rosli’s case to Anwar. Rosli is a victim for the stand he takes, his professionalism and his principles, period!
william lim - June 27, 2010 at 1:28 pm
“The case against Anwar and that of Rosli are as far apart and as unconnected as can be. Or is it?” – Din
Din, it is ! So dont link these two. DSAI has a political agenda, Rosli does not. DSAI has personal interest to be PM and takes legal manouvres to avoid the charges over his sexual indiscretions. Rosli was simply acting as a lawyer to protect his client. Even the MACC witnesses admitted that fact. Such fearless altruism is very rare these days. Your report says he even refuses to make a written representaion to seek withdrawal of the charge.Rosli has not avoided anything. He is taking the MACC head on. He is taking the MSM head on. Brave or naive? That’s something only Rosli and his counsel can answer. As another professional, I admire his courage. I hope and I wish him well.
manmohan - June 27, 2010 at 1:40 pm
As far as I know you don’t change judges midstream. If they do, then the whole trial will have to resume. Reboot in computer language. The same witnesses will have to be recalled.
Reason. The ‘new’ judge will not be in a position to assess the credibility of the witnesses (who had testified before the previous judge) without personally observing their demeanour.
In most cases the previous judge will have to be recalled from where ever he is, to continue hearing this case until it is disposed off.
But then, do we have a judiciary in Malaysia? All we have is UMNO lapdogs sitting on the bench.
Sam01 - June 27, 2010 at 2:55 pm
“The Judge who will take over Rosli’s case is Puan Rozilah Saleh. She was the court registrar who assisted Justice Augustine Paul in PP v Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim (No. 3).”
If the video recording is available to Judge Rozilah, Rosli should not fear too much. Judge Rozilah had served as deputy Registrar at the Court of Appeal and would be familiar with difficult legal issues.
faircounsel - June 27, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Yes, it is clear as daylight you are sore with PKR. You started off with so much enthusiasm to help bring about change by standing with Anwar.
Now you have put up your hands. You gave up. I wonder why?
Maybe, we will never know.
Sam01 - June 27, 2010 at 2:58 pm
“As far as I know you don’t change judges midstream” – Sam01
Absoulely right Sam01! MACC using their might to change goalposts. Something is really rotten in the hills of Duta. Judge Rozilah who served with Augustine Paul is being sent as deputy registrar Court of Appeal to hear this case. We all have seen how the Court of Appeal ruled that witnesses can be detained beyond normal office hours, even held overnight without sleep although High Court ruled that was illegal!
agcfriend - June 27, 2010 at 3:09 pm
Let’s face it. this country is ruled by a few miserable elites who treats this country like their backside.
Most of the laws introduced are there to protect their arses.
Many were surprised that children of malaysian spouse are allowed malaysian citizenshaip recently, until we found out that it was introduced because the sultan of brunei wanted to divorce his maaysian wife and wanted her and her children to bugger of his country.
And the poorly educated and financially strained malays are always used to the advantge of this ruling elites by stating that it is their necks that willl be hanged if “others” end up ruling this country.
it’s time this falsehood is revealed and the tyranny destroyed.
sputjam - June 27, 2010 at 3:15 pm
“The Judge who will take over Rosli’s case is Puan Rozilah Saleh.” – Din Merican
If the video recordings are there, Rosli shouldn’t be too worried. Or Bar Council can supply Judge Rozilah the transcripts published in Malaysia Today. Otherwise, Judge Rozilah might think Kevin Morais is a saintly church choir boy when reading his testimony – “Tak Tahu, Tak Tahu, Tak Tahu”. After all, she had seen how her mentor, Dato’ Augustine Pual, ruled that all objections by defence counsel are “Irrelevant, Irrelevant, Irrelevant!”
halillujah - June 27, 2010 at 3:21 pm
In MALAYSIA everything can be BOUGHT over. ELECTED MEMBERS,( MP’s and ADUNS) Judiciary, POLICE, civil servants, name it. EVEN news portals viz. MALAYSIAN MIRROR,FREE MALAYSIA TODAY now have an uncanny RESEMBLANCE to the STAR in their REPORTINGS!!! Maybe even so called PRINCIPLED BLOGGERS !!!!!
khem - June 27, 2010 at 3:46 pm
An excellent portrayal of shenanigans that are being orchestrated by the ruling elite to put Anwar in dungeon and knock out PR before the next GE.
Juxtapositioning the ethical requisites in a judge (elements like independence, integrity and fealessness) vital for dispensation of justice, with a comparison of the conduct of Perak Sultan (kowtowing to Najib) to that of the former Lord President Tun Salleh Abbas (not kowtowing to Mahathir) only goes to show how much justice has been undermined by present day judges.
It appears as though every thing was meticulously pre-planned for execution. If one can think in retrospect, it becomes crystal clear as to why an UMNO man Tan Sri Zaki Tun Azmi was appointed as Chief Justice to head the Judiciary – to burry Anwar of course.
K Das - June 27, 2010 at 4:23 pm
In MALAYSIA everything can be BOUGHT over.
Maybe even so called PRINCIPLED BLOGGERS !!!!!
Khem,
You hit the goal post just like the Surez did last night against South Korea.
Was it a valid goal that sent the South Korean team home!!!
tean - June 27, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Din
Among the reasons I support DSAI is he’s allowing due process and the law to take its course as opposed to some who swear on holy books and expect that we’ll swallow that crap!
But, the cards are stacked aginst him!!
What else can we think of a Court of Appeal (CA) that first says DSAI should not ask for witness list and statements before the trial starts, and is then refused them by the presiding High Court judge when an application is made during the trial, and when referred back, the CA says DSAI has not exhaused ALL legal remedies at the High Court??!!
That Oz doctor is probably shaking his head in bewilderment at a court that expects him to provide DSAI expert evidence with both hands tied behind his back! He’s probably concluded that we have worst than 3rd world judges and corrupt judiciary!!
I mean, when should DSAI have access to these documents to which he has a legal right now? When’s he’s unable to mount a proper cross-examination and defence and after the trial is over and he’s convicted? By 2020?
It’s not just selective prosecution by ambush tactics. The prosecution’s case and charge as it stand now CANNOT be proven AT ALL. Why?
Because the charge is non-consensual while Saiful’s testified it’s consensual. That’s not a lesser charge as the SC claims; that’s like the SC saying the victim was stabbed, the charge is however assault but on the stand the victim claims he was shot!!
Theres’ no nexus between the charge and the so-called victim’s testimony on the stand!
The SC and the judge now clearly realise they have no case, it’s too late to amend the charge and so the cover up in the form of blatant stonewalling and subversion of justice is taking place right in front of the eyes of the nation and the world!
So, the game is clear. An ill-conceived conspiracy and weak prosecution case is being bolstered by a compliant and stonewalling judiciary. 1st, convict at any and all costs, even if the whole nation and world thinks our Rosemajib, Govt and judiciary are shit!!
But it looks like Najib has learnt nothing from history and the earlier machinations of Maha Firaun, IGP and AG and a few judges who sat at the High Court, CA and Fed Court. To paraphrase Churchill – Never before in the history of Malaysian conflict had so many hated so much of so few – Maha Firaun and his conspirators!!
So, this sordid episode of short-term gains vs long-term disaster will come back to bite Rosemanjib and UMNO/BN in the ass and when it will hurt them most – at the next GE
As for Rosli Dahlan and the way testimony has been received from the recalcitrant, lying and scurrilous Kevin & his cohorts, I’d be surprised if the case is not dismissed without Rosli’s defence being called. Any other verdict wil be another gross miscarriage of due process and justice.
dpp
we are all of 1 race, the Human Race
donplaypuks - June 27, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Get rid of the One Party State run by UMNO, and we will remove all the nonsense we get from this UMNO-infested judiciary.
Frank - June 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
Sorry, should read SG (for Solicitor General) and not SC above.
As for the change of judges, can that be legally done in the midst of a trial?
After all, judge Abu Bakar has been transferred to Melaka, not Timbuktu. Why can’t he continue hearing the case since it’s at its tail end?
Smells fishy!! I smell a faggot rat!!
dpp
we are all of 1 race, the Human race
donplaypuks - June 27, 2010 at 4:45 pm
There is no end to the evil that this Govt and their lackeys will do. There are just too many instances. We can only pray for their soul.
telur dua - June 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm
Najib represents a One Party State.
Frank - June 27, 2010 at 5:23 pm
AG and CJ pray very hard as Muslim. During those prayers they forget about UMNO and RM$$$, As soon as prayers are over the UMNO and RM$$$ immediately set in. They are great Muslim. I hope they are, unless, up there just watched and judge them the other way.
ajajal - June 27, 2010 at 5:27 pm
Din, I hope Rosli Dahlan does take up your suggestion to involve himself actively in a NGO or political party as freedom figther.
Habib RAK - June 27, 2010 at 5:45 pm
Excellent overview of the Terminal Moral Rot at the Core of Umno Baru (the Umno Dr M created). Veterans like Ku Li still think the Umno of 1946 can be resurrected – but why do we want a ghost government? For sure, even if Pakatan Rakyat takes over, it doesn’t mean the end of all problems – but at least we shall have key leaders who cherish a few ideals and who have stood for justice since their youth.
Antares - June 27, 2010 at 6:08 pm
May Rosli Dahlan win in his legal case.
May DSAI be victorious with Allah’s blessings!
ahyam - June 27, 2010 at 7:46 pm
The charge sheet against Rosli reads:
“That you, on 21 September 2007, at the Deputy Public Prosecutor’s Office, Anti-Corruption Agency Headquarters in the Federal Territory of Putrajaya as a person required by the Prosecutor through a Notice under section 32(1)(b) of the Anti-Corruption Act 1997 dated 17 July 2007, where the said Notice was extended to 16 August 2007, for you give a truthful statement and disclose all information that you know in writing and under oath on every asset whether movable or non movable, that you own or have an interest in and all sources of your income, revenue or asset, had deliberately not complied with the terms of the said Notice, that is, you had in a sworn statement dated 20 September 2007 did not disclose all information related to your property as required in the Notice. Therefore, you have committed an offence under section 32(2) of the Anti- Corruption Act 1997 and can be sentenced under the same section and Act.”
Issues of fact and of law in the case:
1. Was there reasonable ground to suspect that a crime has been committed and the accused is an accessory or worse an accomplice? Is this a requirement before a Sec. 32 notice is served?
2. Was the Sec. 32 notice served on the accused?
3. Was the Sec. 32 notice served in accordance with the law and as required under the Anti-Corruption Act 1997?
If a Sec. 32 notice had been properly served on the accused and in accordance with the law
1. Did the accused comply with the terms of the said Sec. 32 notice?
2. Was there a full disclosure of the assets the accused stated he owned?
Apparently the accused, according to the prosecution, failed to make a full disclosure of his assets as required under the law.
So let us hear the evidence.
This not a conspiracy case involving tax evasion where the charge against the principal failed to make it passed the preliminary stage and was thrown out of court for lack of evidence by the judge. If the accused was a named co-conspirator who was being tried separately ergo or by argument the charge against the co-conspirator could not stand. This is a separate charge for having failed to comply with the terms of the Sec. 32 notice as required under the law.
Bear in mind that in the case of Ramli (former CCID chief), the judge said the prosecution ‘failed to adduce credible evidence” and not that “there was no evidence”. Semantics? I don’t think so.
There seems to be a general consensus that there is bad faith on the part of the prosecutor in prosecuting the accused for tax evasion. How is that relevant when the only issue is: was the accused served with the Sec. 32 notice under the Anti-Corruption Act 1997 on July 17th July 2007 in accordance with the law?
Motivation is not an issue.
Admittedly there is a jurisdictional issue that needs to be addressed.
You can change the judge but you cannot change the law.
Mr Bean - June 27, 2010 at 8:00 pm
“AG and CJ pray very hard as Muslim”- ajajal
ajajal, you got the wrong persons. AG loves his wine. CJ has a history with a string of stewardesses, just ask his baruah Capt Azlan. Thats why his wife divorced him. This CJ Zaki Tun Azmi was the Chairman of UMNO’s Disciplinary Board until his “marriage in a bicycle shop” in Perlis became public. To destroy evidence of that marriage he burned the Siamese marriage cert that he bought from across the border. Instead of punishing him, UMNO rewarded him to be CJ. That is the calibre of our top Malay judges!
Bung Mokhtar was more decent to marry Zizie in the family’s presence. So Bung, go ask JAWI what the hell is this 1 month imprisonment sentence when Zaki gets to be CJ. Apa ini Syariah court. Civil court syariah court sama saja, all cronies!
B747 - June 27, 2010 at 8:01 pm
You can change the judge but you cannot change the law.- Mr Bean
That may be true in US and in a more civilised world. But not in Malaysia.
Here, they change the law and keep the judge.
Frank - June 27, 2010 at 8:12 pm
In the case of the accused the relevant issue appears not to be corruption which is what the ACA 1997 is all about. Perhaps non-disclosure or less than full disclosure of his assets which should lead to charges of tax evasion. There seems to be a jurisdictional issue here.
Mr Bean - June 27, 2010 at 8:13 pm
The line of questioning pursued by the defense against ‘faggot’ DPP Kevin Morais’ can be justified only because of the need to preserve the issue of credibility in case it goes to appeal. Not because he is a ‘faggot’ a very offensive term used by homophobics. What has a guy’s sexual orientation gotta do with the pursuit of justice?
This ought to set our little Emmie who lives north of the border from where I live, on fire since gays and lesbians have a common cause in fighting to rid society of prejudices. I am not surprised if Emmie secretly harbors the urge to spank DIn Merican for being homophobic.
Mr Bean - June 27, 2010 at 8:33 pm
masayu,
no, its not a high society gathering for wine. yes, its who who attendance but i m told its really spiritual. i m just confused. how can a muslim behave like this? how can one reconcile with his hypocrisy?
aca - June 27, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Bean,
Go read again all of Din’s earlier writings and RPK’s postings of the transcript. This is NOT a tax evasion case in the manner you phrased it -”There seems to be a general consensus that there is bad faith on the part of the prosecutor in prosecuting the accused for tax evasion.”
The key issues are as follows:
a) whether Kevin Morais had any basis to believe that an offence had been committed by Ramli (the predicated offence);
b) if there was no predicated offence, whether Kevin would have any power to issue against Rosli a Notice under section 32(1)(b) of the Anti-Corruption Act 1997;
c) whether Kevin had any basis to deem Rosli as an “associate” to warrant Rosli giving him a reply;
d) whether the Statutory Declaration filed by Rosli in reply to Kevin’s notice was in the circumstances adequate.
Now the brief facts:
1) there was no predicated offence against Ramli. The only report naming Ramli was a “cover report” by MACC officer Azmi R/No. 098/07, which Azmi admitted was based on another cover report R/No. 075/07, which was based on another cover report No.072/07, and based on yet another cover report No. 065/07. None of these reports named Ramli. Ramli has been acquitted, no predicated offence. Period.
2) In this trial, Kevin has been caught lying throughout his cross examination. There was no basis for his belief that Ramli commited an offence or for issuing a notice against Rosli as an “associate”. He contradicted himself countless times. Even the IO Saiful Ezral is now in trouble and is contradicting Kevin’s testimony.
3) Kevin and Saiful Ezral conducted no investigation of the allegations against Ramli or Rosli prior to issuing the notices.
4) They relied on the sole uncorroborated statement of a known criminal and murderer, Moo Sai Chin. This criminal was under Emergency Ordinance detention which was converted to a restricted residence under the RRE and, after implicating Ramli, he was released. That they considered Moo Sai Chin a credible witness shows some dark forces at play here.
5) In an about turn, Kevin and Saiful now say that Rosli was not an “associate” but was just a witness. If Rosli was just a witness, why did they not record his statement, not initially not at any time? They stormed his office, assaulted and handcuffed him in the most brutal way. Was that necessary especially during Ramadan and publicising it on Hari Raya Aidilfitri? Was that also the circumstances that caused the death of another witness, Teoh Beng Hock?
6) From the very beginning, Rosli had challenged Kevin’s notice as being suspect. In his letter to Kevin, Rosli pointed out that “associate” has a specific definition and asked Kevin to explain under which category Kevin considers Rosli to be an “associate”. Rosli was Ramli’s lawyer. A lawyer is not an associate. Kevin declined to answer. Rosli filed his Statutory Declaration (SD) denying that he held any asset for Ramli and challenged Kevin’s notice as being defective and void. Declining to meet Rosli or to interview him, Kevin ordered Rosli to be arrested in the most brutal and humiliating manner.
Bean, if you can be as diligent to read all the transcripts in RPK’s MT and Din’s earlier articles, as you have been in formulating the issues in your comments, you would not make your murky comments. Then, you could see that the answers to (a)-(c) above are all in the negative. As for (d), Rosli’s answer in his SD was adequate. If it was not or if he had lied, MACC should charge him for lying. They did not. Why? Because Rosli was telling the truth!
As a seasoned lawyer, you would know that in a charge for an omission, as is the case here, the MACC must state what is the information of the asset that Rosli has omitted to declare, in other words, what is it that Rosli is hiding? The MACC could not make that accusation because Rosli did not hide anything. Period!
One of the prejudice Rosli suffers with the change of Judge is that the new Judge could not appreciate the conduct, demeanour and credibility of the MACC witnesses. There are many others. Perhaps, as a person learned in the law with very wide experience, you can enlighten us what other prejudices Rosli would suffer.
loyarburuk - June 27, 2010 at 9:44 pm
What has a guy’s sexual orientation gotta do with the pursuit of justice? – Mr Bean
The short answer: POLITICS
Frank - June 27, 2010 at 9:48 pm
You don’t change judges in order to change the course of a trial. For one thing that would affect the constitutional right or rights of the accused to a fair trial. But there may be those instances when the judge does something to disqualify himself or herself from further hearing the case. Under those circumstances he may have to recuse himself or herself as required under the law. Apparently, this is not one of those cases.
Also you don’t ‘reboot’ borrowing computer terminology (he says) as some moron suggests here and begin the trial all over again because “the new judge would not be able to observe the demeanor of witnesses” already examined. You have heard of notes have you?
Mr Bean - June 27, 2010 at 9:58 pm
You don’t change judges in order to change the course of a trial. For one thing that would affect the constitutional right or rights of the accused to a fair trial.- Mr Bean
Mr Bean, then why are they doing it?
Frank - June 27, 2010 at 10:08 pm
Frank,
Me no do psychoanalysis. Sigmund Freud did. Any Sigmund Freuds here?? Frank, you will have to ask the AG or his handlers.
Mr Bean - June 27, 2010 at 10:20 pm
‘Also you don’t ‘reboot’ borrowing computer terminology (he says) as some moron suggests here and begin the trial all over again because “the new judge would not be able to observe the demeanor of witnesses” already examined. You have heard of notes have you?” – Bean
Bean,
It is very impolite of you to call Sam01 a moron for making that comparison using computer language. That was just an analogy. Who the hell you think you are to use such language on other readers? Being the empty vessel that you are, the purpose of a trial is indeed to enable a judge to make findings of fact based on the conduct, demeanour and credibility of the witnesses. That is something that the “Notes of proceedings/evidence” can never convey. So don’t be smug and demean others. I have seen your uncouth language in exhanges with kakrubi and siti khadijah previously. Din should really keep you under leash like a dog, you moron!
jagabahasa - June 27, 2010 at 11:06 pm
So you’re saying if the trial judge has to recuse himself for having been disqualified to hear the case for reason or reasons beyond his control, there will have to be another trial – like as if the trial has never started?
It is clear who is the moron here. And I’m not demeaning others. Just you.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 12:18 am
Your repeated answering of questions you pose yourself depict the moron and imbecile that you are. Either that or dementia of an old man way past his prime. In case it is already not clear, it is meant for you Bean.
jagabahasa - June 28, 2010 at 12:33 am
A fresh trial is only possible if a motion for mistrial succeeds based on prosecutorial misconduct.
It is not like demeanor of witnesses is the only tool available to the judge in dealing with issues of credibility. There are others. So go get yourself some education instead of calling me a dog.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 12:34 am
Bean,
Go read again all of Din’s and RPK’s earlier writings. This is NOT a tax evasion case in the manner you phrased it -”There seems to be a general consensus that there is bad faith on the part of the prosecutor in prosecuting the accused for tax evasion.”
The key issues are as follows:
a) whether Kevin Morais had any basis to believe that an offence had been committed by Ramli (the predicated offence);
b) if there was no predicated offence, whether Kevin would have any power to issue against Rosli a Notice under section 32(1)(b) of the Anti-Corruption Act 1997;
c) whether Kevin had any basis to deem Rosli as an “associate” to warrant Rosli giving him a reply;
d) whether the Statutory Declaration filed by Rosli in reply to Kevin’s notice was in the circumstances adequate.
Now the brief facts:
1) there was no predicated offence against Ramli. The only report naming Ramli was a “cover report” by MACC officer Azmi R/No. 098/07, which Azmi admitted was based on another cover report R/No. 075/07, which was based on another cover report No.072/07, and based on yet another cover report No. 065/07. None of these reports named Ramli. Ramli has been acquitted. Period.
2) Kevin has been caught lying throughout his cross examination. There was no basis for his belief that Ramli commited an offence or that Rosli was an “associate”. He contradicted himself countless times. Even the IO Saiful Ezral is now in trouble and is contradicting Kevin’s testimony.
3) Kevin and Saiful Ezral conducted no investigation of the allegations against Ramli or Rosli prior to issuing the notices.
4) They relied on the sole uncorroborated statement of a known criminal known, Moo Sai Chin. This criminal was under Emergency Ordinance detention which was converted to a restricted residence under the RRE and, after implicating Ramli, he was released (dark forces at play here).
5) Kevin and Saiful now say that Rosli was not an “associate” but was just a witness. If Rosli was just a witness, why did they not record his statement, not initially not at any time? They stormed his office, assaulted and handcuffed him in the most brutal way. Was that necessary especially during Ramadan and publicising it on Hari Raya Aidilfitri? Was that also the circumstances that caused the death of another witness, Teoh Beng Hock?
6) From the very beginning, Rosli had challenged Kevin’s notice as being suspect. In his letter to Kevin, Rosli pointed out that “associate” has a specific definition and asked Kevin to explain under which category Kevin considers Rosli to be an “associate”. Rosli was Ramli’s lawyer. A lawyer is not an associate. Kevin declined to answer. Rosli filed his Statutory Declaration (SD) denying that he held any asset for Ramli and challenged Kevin’s notice as being defective and void. Declining to meet Rosli or to interview him, Kevin ordered Rosli to be arrested in a most brutal and humiliating manner.
Bean, if you can be as diligent to read all the transcripts in RPK’s MT and Din’s earlier articles, as you have been in formulating the issues in your comments, you would not make your murky comments. Then, you could see that the answers to (a)-(c) above are all in the negative. As for (d), Rosli’s answer in his SD was adequate. If it was not or if he had lied, MACC should charge him for lying. They did not. Why? Because Rosli was telling the truth!
As a seasoned lawyer, you would know that in a charge for an omission, as is the case here, the MACC must state what is the information of the asset that Rosli has omitted to declare, in other words, what is it that Rosli is hiding? The MACC could not make that accusation because Rosli did not hide anything. Period!
One of the prejudice Rosli suffers with the change of Judge is that the new Judge could not appreciate the conduct, demeanour and credibility of the MACC witnesses. There are many others. Perhaps, as a person learned in the law, you can enlighten us what other prejudices Rosli would suffer with the change of Judge, or if in your view, there is none.
loyarburuk - June 28, 2010 at 12:42 am
So the toothless dog tries to bite after its failed barking. Let’s put you on a leash, down boy!
jagabahasa - June 28, 2010 at 12:48 am
Surely,your command of English tells you that was just an analogy. But if you should feel offended for thinking you are being called a dog,then ask yourself why that is so. A dog on a leash normally behaves itself.
jagabahasa - June 28, 2010 at 1:15 am
*p/s-if I need education on law, you would be the last I go to since your knowledge would be outdated. Old dogs can’t learn new tricks especially if they have rabbies,they are just sent to the pound!
jagabahasa - June 28, 2010 at 1:26 am
“This is NOT a tax evasion case in the manner you phrased it” loyar burok
Yes, thanks for the correction. I realized that and hence my reference at the end to a jurisdictional issue. Rosli was counsel to Ramli and is a lawyer by profession. He is not a public official and the ambit of the Anti-Corruption Act 1967 isn’t that wide as to give MACC power over him.
The charge is flawed? I don’t know. You tell me. If it is one of tax evasion they should have him charged under the country’s income tax laws. I don’t even know if our Income Tax Department have prosecutorial powers. Unlike over here, the IRS or Inland Revenue Service have their own prosecutorial powers.
I must admit I have not read enough (and I never claimed that I did) on any case to be able to comment in the same depth and with the same knowledge and skill as you did. Just to stir up some discussion on the issues in a broad sense. Otherwise Din’s blog would be boring with everybody simply bashing one way. I have long left Malaysia (close to 20 years) and my only interest in this blog is because the blog host is a friend (you could say a distant cousin by marriage i.e. no blood ties). He has shown more than just moderate tolerance to my frolics as he understands the need to keep oneself busy during those long winter nights. Din was here during those Woodstock years in the late ‘60s; and he understands. To his credit that didn’t stop him from throwing me under the bus once in a while. We grew up in the same backyard in Alor Star. Now that little Miss Emmie is on my tail, I’m not surprised if being the ladies’ man that he is, he will take sides with Emmie and throw me under the bus sooner than later.
As for the practice of selected prosecution and prosecutorial misconduct in high profile criminal cases in Malaysia, I don’t think anyone needs to say more. The world knows that the justice system in Malaysia is used to perpetuate an oppressive regime. Malaysia is a sovereign nation and it is Malaysia’s domestic affair. No one else’s.
For the record, I never said I was a lawyer.
I have read some of your comments on MT and I think you should share your thoughts here too. I rarely visit MT because it tends to sensationalize issues. That’s just my opinion. You may disagree.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 1:46 am
Ooops … Anti-Corruption Act 1997. When I was studying Constitutional Law in the 70s there was the Anti-Corruption Act 1967.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 1:50 am
Jagabahasa, it took a while before your posting could be viewed – which can only mean you are using a handle different from your usual. You don’t even have the balls to use your regular handle.
I still await your learned opinion on why a ‘reboot’ (meaning a fresh trial) is necessary or even possible at this stage.
It is clear to everybody that the AG seeks to influence the course of the trial which is obviously not going the government’s way (as evidenced by the last few rulings made by this trial judge) by changing the judge. But whether this ends up actually materially affecting the constitutional right of the accused to a fair trial remains to be seen. Certainly this is the intention and the purpose.
Only prosecutorial misconduct is ground for a motion for a fresh trial which would come at the end of the trial. It is still early.
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There were two predecessor acts to the Anti-Corruption Act 1997 i.e. the Prevention of Corruption Act and the Anti-Corruption Agency Act and not as stated by you, Bean.
Again, this is NOT a tax evasion case or anything to do with any tax issue. This is a FIX-UP case, Period!
In Ramli’s trial, there was evidence that Ramli sent boxes of documents to the MACC all audited by his accountants which showed his assets are legitimate and fully explainable. In his then 32 yrs of service, Ramli had filed 35 departmental asset declarations. He was, after all, the Director of CCID and knew the importance of details.
As for Rosli, he is a lawyer from a large firm. He had an unblemished reputation. The charge is nothing more than a red herring and that is why the “MACC is stripped naked in court” (the way Din puts it) as an agency that abuses its powers.
You may be forgiven Bean for having been away this long as to not know what is happening in our country where good and innocent men are treated the way Rosli has been treated. That is the value of Din’s and RPK’s blog. Because of your frequent and numerous postings in Din’s blog, there is a real danger that readers may be influence by your misleading anallysis. Remember what Goebels, the Nazi Propaganda Minister, said about repeating big lies often enough? That is the only reason I entered the fray. Other than that, it is Din’s prerogative to give you whatever latitude he wants. So, while you write your comments just for
entertainment value, remember that people’s life and reputation is at stake here.
loyarburuk - June 28, 2010 at 8:25 am
Bean, if only you could make your analysis (phony or othwerwise) without demeaning others, this blog would be lively without being antagonistic. Then again, I am amused to note that other than siti khadijah and myself, you seem to have attracted a 3rd force in jagabahasa who also finds you annoying. But, this time around, we can all thank you for inducing loyarburuk to enter the fray. We benefit from his analysis which exposes what a crap you are!
kakrubi - June 28, 2010 at 9:22 am
Who also finds me annoying? A third force? I expect better from you. That is someone with an axe to grind who appears under another handle. He has called me names before and all because he thought my sympathy is not with the innocent. I am merely squaring things up. I don’t care to comment further.
Loyarburok,
Misleading analysis? Really? I don’t think I made an attempt to analyse anything. My comments are putting people’s lives in danger? Really? You are giving too much credit. There is nothing in my comments that could lead a reasonable person to think that. Also my comments regarding Rosli’s case was not made for entertainment value. I merely raised the issues. Issues of both fact and law. If I did it in an objective and neutral fashion it is for the purpose of stirring up some discussion on the relevant issues; and because, despite the irregularities, I still have some faith in our justice system. If it is about prejudice caused by changing the trial judge, it remains to be seen. The previous judge made some rulings unfavorable to the defense. Are we to expect that this new judge would reverse those rulings? I don’t know what rulings he made.
Having said that I believe in the end the accused would probably not have a fair trial. But then there is still the appeal.
Please do not denigrate the intelligence of readers. They can make up their own minds as to the truth of what they read. You may think they are stupid. They are not.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 10:04 am
Mr Bean
jagabahasa’s brain was deep fried by your comments. I think he/she needs to check into Tanjung Rambutan Hotel for R&R and to have a checkup at the Hotel to make sure his/her right brain stays on the right side and his/her left brain stays on the left side.
Frank - June 28, 2010 at 10:21 am
“Again, this is NOT a tax evasion case or anything to do with any tax issue. This is a FIX-UP case, Period!” loyarburok
I did say there was a jurisdictional issue i.e MACC has no jurisdiction over this case as it does not involve corruption by a public official. The accused is a lawyer and counsel for a client accused of not declaring his assets as required under the Anti-Corruption Act 1997. His only ‘crime’ seems to be that he defended a client accused of a crime he was alleged to have committed. His client was set free for lack of credible evidence by the trial judge. There was no trial.
But for what it is worth and this is my personal opinion only, I have yet to meet a senior police officer in charge of commercial crimes who is not in some way involved with the underworld or who does not know somebody who is involved. You may dismiss it as an occupational hazard. But I am in the business of searching for nothing less than the truth.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 10:24 am
Yes, Frank. Gotcha! Thanks.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 10:26 am
It did cross my mind.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 10:29 am
“….So, while you write your comments just for entertainment value…” loyarburok
loyarburok,
That is an UNFAIR call.
Mr. Bean gave his views from his position of understanding of the issues from the distance. I believe he presented his point of view in all seriousness and not to entertain on this blog.
Even if he got it misguided or wrongly assessed the facts of the case, that does not mean he wrote to entertain.
Mr. Bean would give an opinion which would not necessarily be a popular one or an opinion that we all are willing to agree.
But to say that he is giving his legal views to entertain??? That’s being ridiculously unreasonable as a lawyer. You don’t say that in the court of law, do you?
If you want to know Mr Bean entertaining the rest of the commenters here, you should read his postings on non-legal issues here.
One more thing, nobody really cares two hoots about comments made on blog except perhaps the police to keep themselves busy and as an excuse to read blogs while wasting their time at the office if there are no police reports forthcoming against opposition politiicians.
Get a life, loyarburok.
Frank - June 28, 2010 at 10:50 am
Well said, Frank. Succinctly put. Let’s move on.
Do you know what my police officer friends in drug and vice say to me? They say they don’t see anything morally wrong with taking money from criminals especially when they are also Chinese and not Malays and Muslims! What has race and religion gotta do with crime? A crime is still a crime no matter who commits it. Stealing is still stealing no matter who you steal from. Rape is still rape even if the victim is a prostitute.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 11:02 am
Bean, what have u been up to, annoying the delicate sensibilities of some people here.
They don’t appreciate your impartiality. I don’t have to tell you that you have the support of others.
Yes, you are annoying (and decrepit) but we won’t have you any other way.
Emmie - June 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Din, if there are similarities, eerie ones at that it IS becasue the same forces (albeit dark) are at work and play.
they play with peoples lives as if there is no accountability. There will be.
They play with peoples lives because they can.
The judiciary is no longer the one that once was. It has been altered and engineered to suit the needs of those who wield power.
there is obvious interference with the judiciary by the executive and all those who suck up and back stab are right there with it and in it.
I am not surprised by the similarities at all, in fact I would be if there was none.
This is a fix. perhaps many more to come and lives in danger.Until the time the will of the people are powerful enough to change it overnight, kick them out of office and in the morning put forth a new government.
Kathy - June 28, 2010 at 12:15 pm
I have just one thing to say about 2 of Anwar’s cases. The first one is the main case, ie, the charge for abuse of power before Augustine Paul. The 2nd one is the Sodomy1 charge before Ariffin Jaka.
I don’t want to write a long dissertation lest my emotions will show and I will be accused of assessing them with emotions. Let me just state it in … See moreone sentence.
Just applying the beyond reasonable doubt threshold, as applied in any other criminal prosecution, the case against Anwar would have been dismissed in any Courts in the Commonwealth jurisdiction by any Judge who is honest, full of integrity and who is not beholden to the powers that be.
As for the prosecution team, well, I don’t want to waste my time and everybody’s else.
The Anwar cases are symptomatic of a judiciary and a judicial system which set itself out to please the Executives, perhaps even beholden to the Executives for whatever reason. It is shambolic and is a disgrace to a country who calls itslef a pratising democratic country. It has brought shame, ridicule and nothing but sheer potrayal of absolutism to this country.
It is a black blob on our history and I can state one thing.
I will die with this feeling of injustice!
art harun - June 28, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Having said so, Cik Din, allow me to say something about Rozilah Salleh.
First of all, I do not why they are changing the Judge. This is definitely odd. The practice is, when a trial is at an advance stage, and when countless hours have been spent on a trial, a Judge will not be changed. Even he is transferred away, he would be asked to continue to preside over the case.
This is because he is the best person to judge the testimony, either to its admissibility or most importantly, to the weight to be given to a piece of testimony (we call it “probative value of the evidence”).
This is because the Judge would have seen and observed the witness and his body language, his temperament, he refusal or willingness top answer a question and if he answers, his demeanour while answering. All these will be in his head. He decides whether to believe a witness and if he believes, how mcuh he would believe that witness based on all those things.
Nobody else can do that but him. Because he was there.
If Rozillah take over, she would have to start de nove (meaning, all over again). Otherwise she would be handicapped because she did not have the opportunity to observe Kevin Morais and the rest of the bumbling clowns who the prosecution is calling “witnesses”.
If she did not start de novo, she would have to rely on the notes taken by the former Judge. That is not good because she would not know the demeanour of the witnesses who were giving evidence. She would see the sweat that ran down Kevin’s face, nor the akward smile of whoever who was giving evidence.
I think I know Rozillah. She was one of the Deputy Regustrars of the Court of Appeal before. She is a decent lady. Hardworking too. And she was very very helpful to everyone. She would go out of her way to help lawyers and she did that always with a smile.
If we are talking about the same Rozillah, I must say that I quite admire her really.
Perhaps it is a blessing in disguise.
art harun - June 28, 2010 at 12:57 pm
It does not matter how rich or poor a nation is, without the Rule of Law nations descend into anarchy. Malaysia has.
A Banana republic.
Kathy - June 28, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Why does it take a fall from grace to make anyone realise that things have to change in malaysia.
that is the other similarity here. maybe that si why they fall form grace of God because they walk unconsciously not in awareness of Him. They lie to Him about believing His commands. THEY LIE. IT iS ALL ABOUT MAKING MONEY THAT ISNT THEIRS.
That is the greatest dissapointment with the Malays specifically and the Moslems generally.
They walk this earth paying lip service regarding being Moslems then they will back stab and suck up like there is NO God. Money is everything to them. F%$#@@&^(*** up sense of attachment to money. Now do you understand my language Sayang Bangsa.
I bet you understand now. for a simpleton like you I have to put it simply. Malays are HYPOCRATES. period.
I hate that with a vengeance, that HYPROCRACY. I HATE IT.
Then they walk around self righteously judging/preaching others about hell and heaven.
Who died and made the Malays the custodians of Gods heavan? Hypocrates.
Kathy - June 28, 2010 at 1:48 pm
oops HYPOCRITES
meaning to pretend.
Kathy - June 28, 2010 at 1:50 pm
“Jagabahasa, it took a while before your posting could be viewed”- Bean
Complain that to the blog master. It seems Din takes time to moderate my response to you while you get immediate access. Must be that special relationship you have with him “…a distant cousin by marriage…”. Otherwise, irritants like you would not be tolerated by other blog hosts, the way RPK bars you from MT!
And please don’t gratify yourself too much just because Frank, your lap dog follows you barkings. Down boy!
It doesn’t help either that you cross dress as an Emmie.
“You don’t even have the balls to use your regular handle.” – Bean
Indeed I don’t have any, you moron!
This will be my last response to you just so that there is no further distractions to the topic under discussion. It is pitiful when a retired old geezer like Bean abuses a forum like this.
jagabahasa - June 28, 2010 at 2:26 pm
And please don’t gratify yourself too much just because Frank, your lap dog follows you barkings. - jagabahasa
Wow!! You too co can bark, calling Mr Bean a dog and calling me a lap dong. Not bad.
So that was your last response so there is no further distractions!!!!!
You gonna decide here there are no distractions. What a fool !!!
No, No, I should NOT t call you a fool .. you have got your left brain reposition back in its proper place. You are an idiot.
Frank - June 28, 2010 at 3:04 pm
jagabahasa
YOu are the one who FIRST hurled abuse on Mr Bean BY calling him a dog.
So, you very welll damn “jaga” your “bahasa” first instead of pointing the fingers at Mr Bean.
You want to be moral policeman? Go join JAIS or JAKIM. What an idiiot!!!
Frank - June 28, 2010 at 3:10 pm
For somebody who calls himself “jagabahasa”, he surely lets himself loose with his language. What’s with the name calling anyway? Maybe he should take heed from his name and stop calling other people moron, dog etc2.
Back to the topic in hand, with the way things are unfolding in Malaysia it’s no surprise that there are a lot of disillusioned young people out there. I might not like DSAI so much but I really don’t think anybody should warrant that kind of treatment he gets in his trial. Same goes with the Rosli Dahlan’s trial. But there aren’t many people who are aware of this case and what worries me the most is the apathy most young malaysians have as a result of their disillusionment.
didi - June 28, 2010 at 4:35 pm
Frank has been around on this blog for a while. I assure you he is nobody’s lap dog. That much I can proudly say of Frank. And Emmie, I love the way you write, sweetie! What more can I say. We do need a dose of humor now and then to keep us from going off the cliff. So nyotaimuri this weekend? No?
I would like to ask the expert here, Art Harun.
We all know that the government is up to mischief by changing the trial judge on its own volition and apparently for no good reason. The change of the trial judge in this case is not forced by circumstances such as when something happens that disqualifies him from further hearing the case and he is required to recuse himself. Apparently there is nothing in law that prevents the government from making such a move – which is why they are doing it.
I agree that as the new trial judge she loses out on the opportunity of observing the demeanor of witnesses who have given their testimonies.. Ceteris paribus, this may prove prejudicial to the defense case. However, it does not have to be since she could still rely on judge’s notes. Of course it will not be the same. But if we are talking about credibility, there are other tools the judge could rely on to gauge credibility. Inconsistencies in the testimony of witnesses, for example. Demeanor of witnesses when giving evidence is one. Demeanor can sometimes be misleading. In any case what counts is the totality of the evidence.
The intention, I submit, appears to be to try and change rulings made earlier which are unfavorable to the government by considering certain issues de novo. The impact of those may be extremely damaging since the judge is also a tribunal of fact as well of law. But even the judge acting as both the tribunal of fact and law, will have to find the reasoning at the end to justify his or her decision. Any convoluted reasoning, misapplication of the law to the facts as found by the trial judge could be corrected by the appeals court.. At least that is the hope. Indeed in this case, securing a conviction would appear to be secondary since the idea is to punish; and punishment can come in other forms – like keeping the accused under the dark cloud of suspicion and subjecting his private life to public scrutiny for the duration of the trial followed by the appeals process which will be years. I am not surprised if an accused in his position after successfully defending his innocence comes out broken and exhausted, depleted of all resources.
The government’s intention in putting the accused on trial is not to seek justice but apparently to punish counsel for defending his client. Even though it is not counsel who decides if an accused is guilty. It is the court. The attempt at intimidating counsel as defense counsel to his client in another case should leave us with no doubt as to the government intention. This is a follow-up. The message is to the lawyers. Those aspiring to be defense counsel to their clients who have fallen out of favor with the government better be clean as a whistle. A little too late for those who have skeletons in their cupboards.
Mr Bean - June 28, 2010 at 6:29 pm
Frank, before you make a fool of yourself, Bean has previously said that his comments are for entertainment. And his comments reproduced below confirms it: “…my only interest in this blog is because the blog host is a friend (you could say a distant cousin by marriage i.e. no blood ties). He has shown more than just moderate tolerance to my frolics as he understands the need to keep oneself busy during those long winter nights.
kakrubi - June 28, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Bean has previously said that his comments are for entertainment- kakrubi
Not ALL comments. I think on legal issues, Mr Bean is pretty serious in his views, and you can judge from his postings. But remember, we are not in a court nor are we talking heads in the mainstream media.
Sure, taken in a loose sense, every thing you and I and ohers say is for entertainment.
We all are just wasting our time on the internet to make full use of our broadband subscription (for some others they secretaly use their employers’ subscription to come to chat on the blogs).
Who are we kidding to think that those chaps in govt, in the judiciary, bureacracy and politicians will take as seriously.
As I said, I don’t even take myself seriously on this blog. We are having fun, usually on somebody’ expense ( the definition of a good life).
But Mr Bean is a lawyer, so I do respect and listen to his views on the law ( ONLY on the law) , though that does not mean I agree with all he said.
And I do learn a thing or two about the law from him.
Why not, if you can learn something while others are entertaining you.
To be honest, I am entertaining myself (at other people’s expense, of course) as far as Din as the host allows me.
Frank - June 28, 2010 at 7:25 pm
Yup, i think there are too many people here who take themselves too seriously. In Din’s blog, one has to have the hide of an elephant, the mental armor of a badak and the ardor of a baboon on heat.
Menyalak-er - June 28, 2010 at 7:43 pm
…. and a brain fully vacuumed.
Frank - June 28, 2010 at 8:17 pm
Hahaha.. Frank, that’s the mental armor of the badak – for entertainment value only! I think being associated with an animal’s characteristic ain’t so bad a thing, after all. See the chinese birth signs? Guess who’s born in the year of the “khinzir”?
Menyalak-er - June 28, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Hidup hidup! Hidup rakyat! Even if Rosli Dahlan does not get justice in this world, he will get it in the afterlife for sure, insya-Allah. Setiap perbuatan, ada balasannya.
Ahmad Syafiq - June 28, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Mengarut!
mamicombi - June 29, 2010 at 7:01 am