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Violence continues in Bangkok

May 17, 2010

www.cnn.com

The Violence continues in Bangkok, Thailand

It was unclear whether the Thai military or the protesters were shooting, he said.The shots were echoing off the tall buildings and hotels that line Lumpini Park, where the protesters are gathered. The normally bustling city was otherwise “deathly quiet” as the shots rang out, he said.

The government on Sunday expanded a state of emergency to more provinces, as fears of unrest elsewhere in the country appeared to grow and the death toll from days of street battles in Bangkok rose to at least 29.

The state of emergency was extended to five more provinces, bringing the total to 22 provinces and the Thai capital, spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said.

The regions affected are primarily in the north and northeast of Thailand, areas traditionally a stronghold for the “Red Shirt” opposition movement.

The government has also banned financial transactions with 106 companies and individuals over the protests, Panitan said. Additionally, the Thai government declared holidays on Monday and Tuesday in the Bangkok area. The start of the new Thai school term has been postponed until May 24 because of the unrest.

The moves came as anti-government protesters in Thailand said they were ready to resume negotiations if Thai authorities withdraw troops waging deadly street battles with demonstrators in the center of Bangkok. Five more people were killed on Sunday, according to hospital officials.

Natthawut Saikua, a leader in the opposition United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship, said the protesters wanted U.N.-mediated talks aimed at resolving weeks of political unrest which has seen thousands of Red Shirts occupy an area of central Bangkok.

The Red Shirts support ousted former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and want Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to call fresh elections.

“We ask the government to … withdraw troops out of surrounding area,” Natthawut said. “We are ready to enter talks immediately by having the U.N. as mediator for this negotiation.”

However, the government seemed disinclined to have the U.N. mediate. Wattanayagorn, the government spokesman, said in a televised news conference that the Thai government has a policy of not allowing organizations to intervene in its internal affairs.

The government has its own sovereignty, Panitan said, and can resolve its own problems. Panitan said the government demands that the protesters stop confronting police. “Stop firing and enter the judicial process,” he said.

“The government has been under pressure to be more decisive in its action,” a senior Thai government official told CNN. “We have been showing patience and restraint.”

That, he said, has upset those who want the government to take action against the protesters. The official said the Red Shirts were “armed to the teeth” with weapons including rocket launchers, handguns and gas bombs. He accused protesters of deliberately provoking clashes with soldiers in order to get “pictures of soldiers using violence to undermine the government.”

“If the protesters didn’t have any arms, there would be no way the soldiers need to be armed,” the official said. “… They have been rallying people to burn the town down. They have shown intent in using and causing violence [and a] willingness to follow up with that intent. In that situation government … has to act.”

The hard-core protesters “don’t want a peace offer,” the official said. “They don’t want a peaceful resolution to this.”

While CNN reporters in Bangkok have not seen protesters using rocket launchers, it is believed they may have them.

“If the Thai army was shooting indiscriminately on the streets, there would be hundreds dead,” the senior government official said. “That is not the case.” The official did acknowledge that there is some army shooting, however, because of high tensions.

Col. Sunsern Kaewkamnerd of the Center for Resolution of Emergency Situation said soldiers had been authorized to open fire when armed people approach within a certain distance.

Thai authorities backed down from earlier plans to impose a curfew in Bangkok, claiming that the tense situation in the center of the city was under control.

Lt. General Aksara Kerdpol said a curfew was “not necessary for now,” although authorities had not ruled out imposing one if circumstances changed. While allowing security forces to identify “terrorists,” Aksara said a curfew would also inconvenience Thai citizens not involved in the protests.

If officials impose a curfew, men will need to register before leaving the affected area, authorities said. Demonstrators who leave before then may be exempt from charges for participating in illegal demonstrations, Sunsern said.

During his weekly televised address on Saturday, Abhisit, the prime minister, warned that the longer the protest continues, the higher the risk for the public.

Abhisit said the government’s actions were necessary to prevent Thailand from sinking into lawlessness. He said security forces and his administration are attempting to counter a small group of protesters among the opposition Red Shirts trying to foment civil war.

“The government proposed a reconciliation plan but it was rejected. This benefits no one. It only benefits a small group which wants to harm the country and lead it to civil war. It is unbelievable that they use people’s lives for political advantage,” he said.

Protesters armed with slingshots and firecrackers huddled behind barricades of tires, spikes and poles Sunday. They set tires afire to create smokescreens as bullets flew around them.

Security forces rolled out razor wire and erected warning signs Saturday as they surrounded the area where the protesters have been clustered, CNN’s Rivers reported. He said Thai troops had also come under fire, although it was unclear who was shooting at them.

Eyewitnesses recounted stories of unarmed people being picked off. One man was shot and whisked away by emergency crews. People at the scene pointed to a building where they thought snipers were based.

“The protesters clearly blame the army for the deadly force,” said CNN’s Sara Sidner from the scene of the protests. “There is no way to know for sure who exactly is doing the shooting but neither of the people we saw injured were armed.”

The escalating violence prompted the U.S. Embassy to issue a travel warning Saturday advising Americans to defer travel to Bangkok. The embassy will remain closed on Monday, a spokeswoman said. Several other countries, including the UK, Germany, Japan, Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands have also advised against travel to Bangkok.

The government said it was forced to take action after demonstrators disregarded an ultimatum by Abhisit to vacate a key intersection by Wednesday.

Tensions ramped up when Maj. Gen. Khattiya Sawasdipol — a renegade general better known as Seh Daeng, which means Red Commander — was shot and wounded by a sniper’s bullet Thursday, leaving him hospitalized in critical condition.

CNN’s Zain Verjee, Sara Sidner, Dan Rivers and Kocha Olarn contributed to this report.

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17 Responses to “Violence continues in Bangkok”

  1. What happen to Dr. Bean? Suddenly he start preaching. Please PAPA please don’t preach

  2. Wake up Papa..touch for the very first time like a virgin.

  3. Guys, people are dying or getting seriously hurt and we are playing music. Tean should go to Bangkok and advise the King to intervene to stop the killing of Thais who want their rights to choose the next government. In stead of staying at home, he should take the next flight to Bangkok.–Din Merican

  4. Yes, Tean, take Din’s advice. You must make an urgent phone call to the King in Bangkok and say Din and I are very upset with what’s going on in Bangkok. And the King should allow the people to choose the next government.

    BTW, tell him not to follow the footsteps of his fellow colleague, whitey, who is now residing in Kuala Kangsar, Perak.

  5. Grey hair seldom stays in K Kangsar, Frank. He spends most of his time here in Ipoh at Istana Kinta. The KK palace is only for ceremonies and official functions like the bestowing of datukship to froggie Hee.

  6. Thanks, Tok Cik.

  7. Let them choose whatever they want to do with their life. Thailand is prosper enough for each and every Thai to live a peaceful life. But no, they want to create trouble and problems. They want to die and that is what they get. Seh Deng already dead and see who will suffer if not his family.

    Human beings are worst than animals. Monkeys are cleverer as they never kill each others because of political views. Monkeys go about their life finding enough food for their daily need and spending their time jumping free in the forest.

    Most of Red Shirt people have enough food to eat and place to sleep. Yet they want to sleep on the streets. They think if they die the world will change. Stupid of them. Let them die if that is what they want. I have no mercy for people who claim to be Buddhists and yet they are worst than animals. Stupid people as always being used as tools by smart one. Thaksin is sleeping in his luxury hotels and stupid people want to die on the streets for him. Let them die. They are stupid and they get what they want. The King is a sad man for he cannot stop his people willing to die because of their wrong views. This is the truth.

  8. Tean

    I guess these people below in the video clip are also stupid and they ” want to create trouble and problems. They want to die and that is what they get.”

    No?

  9. No Frank,
    These people are smart and they get their rewards for being smart. Go and tell family members of those killed in Thailand that their son, husband or father are smart to die instead of living.

  10. Tean

    What about young boys and girls who become soldiers and asked to go to war to die … a war of choice that has little to do with defence of the security of the country, except to defend the political ideology of the leaders and the business interests of the cronies of the politicians.

    Are they smart or stupid?? For example, American kids dying or dead in Iraq ( where is the WMD) and which everybody knows will end up as an Islamic State (by virtue of the shiite population and the influence of its neighbour Iran). Or American kids dying in Afghanistan where the warring Pashtun tribes had always considered war as a way of life and that the country will revert back to be under the control of the fundamentalist Taliban muslims. (Pashtuns are known that if they don’t fight with a common enemy, they will find an excuse to fight among themselves.. its like a hobby to while away their boredom).

  11. What is happening in Bangkok is a coup and a counter coup i.e. between one faction led by one group of army generals and another group led by another group of army generals. Thailand from time immemorial has been ruled directly or indirectly by a military regime, by soldiers in mufti.

    Don’t think Indonesia and Philippines are different. In Indonesia and the Philippines their military shed blood to fight for their countries’ independence and have acquired the much needed legitimacy to rule and the tradition of being subservient to a civilian leadership is just not there to begin with. This is so unlike Malaysia where our soldiers are so well trained by the Brits to respect and be subservient to civilian leadership not to want to displace civilian rule by their own. Tunku Osman Jewa could have led the military in a take-over in 1969 but he didn’t. If he had who knows where and in which direction it could have taken the country.

    The Thai King plays a very important. He is venerated by his people. Much like that of the Japanese emperor. He is God-like and a unifying force and gives the much needed legitimacy to whichever faction wins the ‘mandate to rule’. You can criticize the King for taking sides. But he doesn’t really. He is much like the referee in a boxing match. He merely declares the winner. Except that the general belief is that he does exert some influence over the outcome if he decides not to give the full legitimacy needed for a faction to rule.

    It would be interesting to find out what would happen if he does. The Thai people have the kind of respect for their King in a way Malaysians do not have and will never have. The veneration for their King is complete and rooted in Buddhism and in history.

  12. The point tean was trying to make is that this is another one of those musical chairs where the music doesn’t change. Only the players do.

  13. Tean,
    In many ways you are right wrt Red Shirts.
    They have revered a man (not a king), who’s using them cynically. But they now caught between two worlds – the materialistic/suffering and the peaceful/self-sufficent one. Although you brought up The Way, i think the problem will persist because they are losing their way. The Red Shirts will ultimately be used by another oppoturnistic extreme – the communists – just like the peasants in India (Naxalites) or Nepal (Maoists).
    Yes, Man is little better than a unthinking herd of buffalo.

  14. Please don’t insult the water buffalo.

  15. Huh? I’m talking about American bison..


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