Muaz Omar on the Malaysian Maverick
January 21, 2010
You are the Problem, Dr. M
by Muaz Omar
“Jews have always been a problem. They have to be confined to ghettos and periodically massacred.”
Those are the exact words of the notoriously sly former prime minister, Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad which were quoted and carried by news media when he launched the maiden assembly of the General Conference for the Support of Al-Quds (GCSQ) in the capital on January 20.
Coming from a supposedly great leader and a champion of the Third World, every single ounce of the speech is irresponsible, inciting and racist, to say the least.It also goes to reflect the nature of Mahathir’s thinking and his deep-rooted hatred of anything Jewish.
However, it has never deterred him or his administration back then to use Jewish elements as long as it benefits him politically and economically.Allegedly, the Malaysian government employed the services of disgraced US lobbyist Jack Abramoff to secure an audience with the then US President George W Bush.
He blamed the 1997-1998 Asian Financial Crisis squarely on currency speculators led by one George Soros, a Jew (which he then retracted after a meeting with Soros years later). Mahathir’s administration employed financial giants Salomon Smith Barney and Citigroup, also with clear Jewish links, to assist the country in climbing out of the crisis.
The superficial antagonism of Mahathir towards Jews is a clear paradox to his irrefutable association with them.In fact, back in the 80’s his rumoured involvement in the Freemason movement put him on the backfoot, to the extent that he had to deny it in his speech during an UMNO general assembly in that period.
Mahathir can wear the facade of an anti-Semitic while behaving in the exact manner at almost the same time.His Jew-bashing speech at the GCSQ event did not end there and Mahathir also spewed venom on the Western imperialists, taking aim at the United States.
The absurdity of his speech reached nonsensical heights when he drummed up a conspiracy theory ala Michael Moore that the Sept 11 attack on World Trade Centre in New York was staged by the US in order to attack Iraq and Afghanistan, i.e. the Muslim world.
Only Mahathir is capable of throwing everything including the kitchen sink towards his victim while nonchalantly absolving himself of all blame.
After being awed by Hollywood’s technological prowess visualised by the brilliantly executed James Cameron sci-fi movie “Avatar”, Mahathir came to an almost seemingly outrageous conclusion that the “self-inflicted” Sept 11 attacks on the World Trade Centre in New York was staged by the US themselves.
While some fringe wannabe commentators (myself included) are unable to fathom the logic and reasoning of Mahathir’s rants, many of his die-hard fans will believe every shred of nonsense that comes out of his mouth. It goes to show a basic fundamental problem with Malaysians (especially hardcore UMNO-ites and Malay nationalists) that this veteran leader is the only hero that they can look up to.
Much revered for his material and economic contributions to the country, these same people seem to easily forgive and forget that Mahathir himself has allowed billions of ringgit (RM100 billion according to Barry Wain’s recent book) to be leaked from the nation’s coffers to satisfy his enormous megalomaniac appetite.
Billions were squandered and lost due to comatose projects like Perwaja and the LRT system, which bear Mahathir’s insignia. Nepotism, cronyism and abuse of power have been the order of the day.
Mahathir feeds on the dogmatic and Malay-nationalist patriotic junkies with his often racist statements on Malay rights and supremacy of the Malay race.
He started out as an Ultra-Malay, according to the first prime minister Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj. Mahathir then ruled the country for 20-odd years, displaying his liberal side but never lost any of his anti-imperialist and anti-Semitic rhetoric.
By wearing the “Keffiyah” symbolising his solidarity with the Palestinians’ struggle, Mahathir has shown his ultimate chameleon side.
For an over-hyped statesman and one that has his own World Peace Conference, implicating leaders from the West with crimes against humanity, ideas of persecuting any race or community is definitely not just and peaceful.
While he criticises and insinuates against everyone that crosses his path, Mahathir comes across as someone who is out of time and definitely out of tune. His economic policies have shown failure and the spill over effects are felt up until today, with the country now lagging to even compete with minnows back in the 1970’s like Indonesia, Thailand and even Vietnam.
He built a coterie of cronies that sucked the wealth and resources of the country to the point that it was unbearable for the economy. His leadership was an absolute nightmare, none more so than the devilish treatment of his once anointed successor, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, who was stripped, beaten and jailed in 1998.
He has created a political monster in UMNO that gobbles up everything in its path and rules the country according to their whims and fancies. While the tallest and biggest super-structures were built, education, healthcare and welfare of the commoners deteriorated.
This dinosaur of a leader does not deserve the accolades that Malaysians shower him with. As he is being shunned by the rest of the world except for Venezuela, Zimbabwe as well as Iran, and is being left behind by globalisation and rapid technological advances, Malaysians especially UMNO-ites and Malay nationalists need to free themselves from the man called Mahathir, to move on into the real world.
Mahathir, the Jews are not the problem, you are!
*The views expressed here are the personal opinion of the columnist.
This old man sure knows how to play to the audience, will say anything to suit the occasion. Very evil and irresponsible, have gone completely insane.
funnyfella - January 22, 2010 at 12:52 am
Borrowing Eastwoods famous words ” Mahathir is a legend in his own mind’
And to think he is revered by so many Malayans , speak volumes the wave lengths of these bunch of cuckoos , so who in their faintest mind can blame Borneans from being territorial?
Danildaud - January 22, 2010 at 1:27 am
Well, here a World No.1 Ranking M’sia has no reason to be proud of whatsoever:
Firaun – World’s Most Anti-Semitic, Racist and Bigoted Busybody! We should all shake him warmly by his throat for bringing our nation into utter disreoute and international scorn!!
It’s digusting I have to beathe the same air as him!!
dpp
We are all of 1 race, the Human Race
donplaypuks - January 22, 2010 at 1:33 am
Mahathir is many things to many people. But to his colleagues he is the master puppeteer. He has in him what it takes to pull the strings and manipulate much like a master puppeteer does.
He sold us the Look East Policy when he needed the Japanese to do his bidding. He gave us Perwaja and Proton telling us that there is nothing we could not do if only we believe in ourselves. We believed him. He sold us the cow but not the milk. Milking the cow dry is his addiction. He told the Malays he would not give them the fish but would teach them how to fish. Little did they know that he stood to benefit from all the fish they caught.
Unsatisfied with his role as the tin-pot dictator at home, he romped and pranced around the globe like the world was his playground. He then came back and told us the Jews were the cause of the world’s problems and ours. How else would he explain the loss of some RM20 billion of our money? It had to be the Jews. What do you think the Holocaust is all about? Punishment from God.
The 9/11 attacks on New York City? The Jews knew about it. The Americans deserved it. As for Malaysia, it has always been an Islamic state. It is just that they didn’t tell us.
What next, Mahathir?
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 2:29 am
Dr. M is not an idiot. Seriously! He does not believe all that bullshit himself.
But he knows he will get a reaction from everyone, thereby getting him back into the limelight. Already he’s succeeded in making us talk about him.
And his uneducated and ill-informed followers will continue to slurp up more of his swill. His educated followers will follow their fanatical bent and cheer him on. He gets a pat on the back from the Palestinians and all the other anti-Israel coalition. This is his attempt at resurrecting from the dead.
Dr.M is devious. But to use events like 9/11 and the Holocaust to achieve one’s own ambition – it is a reflection of a person’s depraved values and beliefs. May God forgive his soul.
adiryakiratas - January 22, 2010 at 3:19 am
And he didn’t tell us he admitted he is an Indian in his application form when he applied to do medicine in the University of Singapore.
And he didn’t tell us his full name at birth is Mahathir Mohammad Kutty s/o Iskandar Kutty
And he didn’t tell us his ancestral motherland is Kerala State in India.
And he didn’t tell us that he joins UMNO so that he can prove he is more Malay than the Malay.
And the UMNO didn’t tell us that they elected a self-admitted Indian as their the longest serving President to represent the Malays
And UMNO didn’t tell us they gave us the longest serving Indian Prime Minister in Malaysian history.
And UMNO still didn’t tell us that the retired longest serving Indian Prime Minister of Malaysia is turning senile.
Why is he picking on the Jews, after all he has no Arab blood in his genes? He wants to be more Arab than the Arabs and to post his credentials he is more Arab Muslim than and Indian Muslim by condemning Aaron’s descendants for hijacking and claiming Allah’s covenant with Ishmael.
The man has really gone mad!!!
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 4:56 am
Why give the man all the undeserved attention that he is craving for ?
He is the classic case of the fish who decided that his pond was cramping his style so he moved to a bigger pond only to discover that there were even bigger sharks than him out there so he had to swim back to his old habitat so he could dart back and forth to fire pot shots at imaginary foes whenever he felt the urge to curb his own sense of inadequacy !
ocho-onda - January 22, 2010 at 5:51 am
The guy went to school with my dad. They were class mates. I went to school which had his father’s name inscribed in stone. He was my family GP during my days in Aloq Setaq growing up. I had mumps and chicken pox and he saw me through all that. I was a boy and became a young man. Thanks be to him.
Not so many years earlier my grand uncle by almost divine intervention had put to rest whatever hopes the guy had of becoming a lawyer. The guy wanted a scholarship to study abroad but he sent him scurrying to the local university then based in Singapore to learn how to prescribe medication to the sick instead. Little did this grand uncle of mine know that he was setting up the man who would later go down as the country’s longest Prime Minister when he himself only managed to become its happiest.
That’s Mahathir for you.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 6:34 am
Mr Bean
You didn’t mention that this was the man who orchestrated the demonisation of your grand uncle that led to the humiliating downfall of Malaysia’s Bapa Malaysia.
When I was in UM, he wrote a poison letter which was circulated among the Malay students, demonising your grand uncle in the most insulting way.
I believe Anwar who was then my contemporary in UM and who himself was quite a firebrand in the UM Malay Language Society would have been a recipient of that poison letter.
Mahathir was one of those who fiercely and despicably sought to bring down your grand uncle and done in cahoot with Najib’s father.
Mahathir was one of those who fronted the idea that your grand uncle was a stooge of the non Malays especially the Chinese.
Mahathir has no respect for the elders, a total disregard of the Malay culture (which he claims he is from one) and he represents everything that is bad and uncouth about the behaviour and attitudes of the UMNO Malays we have today. The culmination of his hataredfor authority is the humiliating way he treated the Malay rulers in the 1980s and the way he brought down the Lord President Salleh Abbas.
He instilled in the UMNO Malays those “kurang ajar” attitudes we observe today in the likes of Hishamuddin, Syed Hamid Albar, Hasan Ali, Zulkifli Noordin, Muhyiddin Yassin and those rabid Pro UMNO bloggers, the consequence of it is that even Malays despise all those Malays who associated themselves with UMNO.
That is the legacy of the longest serving President of UMNO, ie Mahathir Mohammad Kutty s/o Iskandar Kutty whose ancestral history is from Kerala State, India.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 7:49 am
What excuse will he give to the muslim world of his son having investments in a beer manufacturing company. That it is of divine virtue worthy of heavenly praises because up there in paradise flows rivers of arak , milk and honey??
Danildaud - January 22, 2010 at 8:00 am
Birds of a feather flock together:
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 8:19 am
oops!!
Birds of a feather flock together:
See here
or heren http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/malaysianunplug/rockybigdogmahathir.jpg
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 8:21 am
Birds of a feather flock together:
This blogger who kissed this man’s hand adopts the same despicable and uncouth attitude in his writings in his blog as the man he kissed.
CLICK HERE TO SEE: http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/malaysianunplug/zakhirandmahathir.jpg
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 8:29 am
“When I was in UM, he wrote a poison letter which was circulated among the Malay students, demonising your grand uncle in the most insulting way.” Frank
Were you by any chance doing public administration as part of your economics course at the FEA?? I got to pick up one of those open letters addressed to the Tunku circulated all over campus in 1969. Yes, using polite language acknowledging Tunku’s royal background and mindful of the Malay tradition of not showing disrespect to their elders, he pointed out in no uncertain terms that Tunku had sold out the Malays to the Chinese.
Anwar (and Rosmah) were my juniors.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:04 am
The old man never forgave him. Hussein Onn went to his grave deeply regretting that he was instrumental in everything that happened afterwards.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:08 am
Mr. Bean
Rosmah is under you at that time ?
That makes Anwar and myself junior to you in campus.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 9:10 am
Tunku had problem with his eye at the time. I remember demonstrators holding placards which read, “In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”. I’m still unsure what that is supposed to mean.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:14 am
It is good to read the comments, but it is better if the views can be disseminated to the rural folks. The rurals command the majority votes. Learn to speak in bahasa or write in bahasa, let the rurals know of what is/was happening in this country. If we just keeps it here on the blogs, internet, facebook we could never manage to change to better. Believe me by not doing enough, we will still stuck under the Umno-BN ruling for a very long murky dirty years.
tricycle - January 22, 2010 at 9:14 am
It wasn’t the same Rosmah then. She was a petite girl with a mole near her lips.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:17 am
That was not the only mole.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:19 am
“…Hussein Onn went to his grave deeply regretting that he was instrumental in everything that happened afterwards…” Mr. Bean
Tetapi Melayu mudah lupa!! Just look at the behavour of Hishamuddin Hussein, who turns out to be an absolute disgrace to the statesmanship of his father and the patriotism of his grandfather.
Najib… he is just a chip of the old block of his father, whose sleigh of hand on Malay politics hoodwinked everybody at that time… except that Najib does it with NO class at all. Najib was a playboy who tried to be a statesman, but failed miserably with all the scandals swirling around him, especially the alleged affair with the murdered Mongolian woman (no wonder poor PI Bala fears for his life)
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 9:21 am
I remember demonstrators holding placards which read, “In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”.- Mr Bean
Yes,I remembered that line too.
All the while,Tun Razak and his cohorts in UMNO allowed the demonisation of your grand uncle to continue unabated among the Malay youths and happy to see the whole thing to spread. Razak was the dalang in that exercise.Anwar was also a party to it.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 9:25 am
Najib has an addiction to sex. For a long time he was the talk of masseuses in Merlin Hotel in the mid 70s. He would call the girls up to his room and have them jerked him off for any price they asked.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:30 am
This old megalomaniac will also say that he killed his mother and ate her brain, just to get some attention. The fact that the whole has completely written him off as a crazy power hungry maniac, hell-bent on achieving glory in this world that has chosen to ignore this fool while LKY is getting all the attention, has really driven him to this latest crazy talk, in his last few dying days.
For me, and many others, this is how he is to be remembered:
Mahathir – Malaysia’s Father of Destruction
barry - January 22, 2010 at 9:31 am
“…but it is better if the views can be disseminated to the rural folks. The rurals command the majority votes…….” -tricycle
I have been harping this line for some time. Instead I am accused by the PKR naive dreamers, especially those who encourages group-think mentality in PKR and who gives advice to their leaders by walking the streets of Kuala Lumpur instead of in the back roads of the kampungs, that I am brow-beating PKR, DAP and PAS.
These are the clever by half PKR naive dreaming political tacticians who are actually right now planning how best to celebrate PR winning Putrajaya in GE13. These are the people who actually think the PR loss of Putrajaya in the March 2008 election is only an aberration.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 9:38 am
the grand vision 2020 will not be achieved thanks to his protectionism policy failure to cultivate synergy among all races. what he did successfully is to create a common denomination among all citizens in this country, and that denomination is MONEY.
fairview - January 22, 2010 at 9:58 am
The half blind man refered to could be ‘Moshe Dayan’ the murderer. He orchestrated the 1967 Middle East War that saw the fall of a huge tract of our Muslim brothers’ land.
Hey look, you still wanna deny what the Qur’an says about the Jews? Bacalah surah Al Baqarah…then you’ll realise.
Zaib - January 22, 2010 at 10:53 am
The anti-Semitic rant from Octokutty is nothing new, as he has throughout his premiership been consistent, eventhough his hypocrisy is self-evident.
What is absolutely hilarious to me, is the reference to the making of “Avatar”. He’s obviously lost his sense of reality and perspective, a sure sign of delirium. It happens to people ‘drunk’ in their own sense of omnipotence and omniscience. Unfortunately, there are many being retarded in discernment, if not in ‘education’, who regard him as their ‘Idol’ – they don’t necessarily need to belong to bumno.
Menyalak-er - January 22, 2010 at 11:05 am
Otoh, Octo might be angling for a “Miss Venezuela” from Hugo Chavez or a “Grand Ayahtollah”-ship from Ahmadinejad/Khameni.
Dear Zaib, the Torah (Hebrew) says the same about the “sons of Ishmael” – so i guess there will be eternal enminity until Armageddon? The reality would then be – that most of the Arab States and Indonesia who have formal diplomatic relations with Israel – would mean that they are “murtad”? So Malaysia which doesn’t have diplomatic relations with the Zionists means that we are the only ‘true’ Muslim countries, along with Shia Iran?
Menyalak-er - January 22, 2010 at 11:40 am
“Hey look, you still wanna deny what the Qur’an says about the Jews? ” – Zaib
No ,YOU READ this part what the Quran says about the Jews:
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 11:55 am
Frank, forget the Quran, Malaysian Muslims don’t believe in the Quran, especially when there is truth in it.
Commonsense - January 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Hi! everyone, It’s Friday and this joke landed in my e-mail.
A man came home from work and his children ran to him and called out ‘Ayah! Ayah!’.His neighbor got very upset and said to him, “Can you please tell your children not to call you ‘Ayah’?”
The man asked, “Why?”
The neighbor retorted, “Because my children call me ’Ayah’ too. They might get confused and mistake you for their father.”
Then the man told his neighbour, are you not ashamed to say that your children do not know who is their ‘Ayah’. So you are saying by using the word ‘Ayah’ , your children will call me ayah too without knowing who is their father.
The neighbour said yes, only i should use the word ‘Ayah’.
The man said, then there is something wrong in what you are teaching your children.They are not sure and do not know who is their ‘Ayah’
tean - January 22, 2010 at 1:34 pm
Tean
Good one!!
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 2:52 pm
Commonsense,
This “Zaib” chap is a half-baked Muslim who only reads and then cherry-picks part of the Quran and then comes here to bullshit around about his/her (or its??) knowledge of the Quran
Real idiot of a Muslim!!!
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Enjoy this vid-clip, guys, since it is Friday. The message is in the song !
ocho-onda - January 22, 2010 at 7:35 pm
God bless you Frank!
Zaib - January 22, 2010 at 8:39 pm
That was a good one, tean! The problem with that is, it does’t stop there. What of the many Maria Ozawas who walk our planet??
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Have you guys ever wondered how the word “We” was preferred or used instead of “I” to refer to God. This occurs both in the Torah, Bible and the Koran??
People of the Book are accustomed to regarding the God of Abraham as being the same and only God. How do you account for the use of the plural “We”?? How many Gods are out there??
“Let us make man in our image, after our likeness …” Genesis 1:26
So now perhaps one could say the Malay-Muslims in Malaysia have an exclusive right to call their God “Allah” – but then the Koranic reference is also to the plural “We”.
My son believes there’s a good chance some of these Gods had earlier come off a flying saucer and have consistently refused to have anything to do with organized religion since he saw some lights hovering in the sky one night as he was having a smoke by the waterfront.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 8:52 pm
What was he smokin’?? Oh, that you’d have to ask him. Whatever it was he was smokin’ I’d like to have some.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 8:56 pm
Thanks Mr Commonsense, I understand your in between the lines message.
Dear Mr Frank, if you are a Muslim and sincere, let me learn Qur’an/ Hadith interpretatio from you because I admit that I am idiot in a lot of things. However, before I learn anything from you, make sure you are not 2X5, half-baked like me ok!
Zaib - January 22, 2010 at 9:11 pm
zaib,
hahahaha .. dont be so serious lah.
stephen - January 22, 2010 at 9:18 pm
Thanks Stephen,
I’m serious about not wanting to be an idiot
Zaib - January 22, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Zaib,
Please address the issue: “Why the use of the word “we” in the plural to refer to God in the Koran?
So there’s really a God of the Muslims, a God of the Christians and a God of the Jews? So the Malay-Muslims do in fact have an exclusive right to the word “Allah” after all?
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 9:25 pm
Morning Bean, i too would like to have whatever the son’s smokin’, if he could spare one.
I might have plausible answers about the ‘We’, but as usual will have to delay to see other responses. Let’s forget about that ‘organized religion’ stuff first, ‘cos this is scripture we are taking seriously here.
Menyalak-er - January 22, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Thanks Mr Bean,
I’ll answer you. However let me exchange notes with my kawan first. I believe u still remember him because we once had a muzakarah at your place (a decade) ago and in return you gave us a book written by Karen Amstrong .. we still keep in our library. Since I dont wanna look idiot, let me get his help.
Din … here he comes … “We” in Arabic does not just indicate plural, but it also indicates greatness, strength, nobleness of Himself. This is something to do with language la Din.
Zaib - January 22, 2010 at 10:00 pm
“”I’m serious about not wanting to be an idiot- Zaib
Zaib,
OK, I withdraw without any conditions my statement about “idiot” when I commented on your posting. I accept it is uncalled for. And I withdraw with apologies too.
I was unhappy by the fact that it was unfair on your part to bring in the Quran to engage in anti Semitic views. It does not contribute to better understanding of the conflicts between nations.
I have no problem if you want to disparage those Zionists, not Jews, for what they are doing causing the miseries of the Palestinians, and best to leave out those Holy Books in to build your case . It is not fair to the religion.
Having said that, the others in this blog have already known what I think about religion in general. Which is not good at all to the ears of religionists.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 10:06 pm
” “We” in Arabic does not just indicate plural, but it also indicates greatness, strength, nobleness of Himself. This is something to do with language la Din.” Zaib
The Christian Bible (like the first five chapters referred to as the Torah by the Jews) was first translated into Greek and then into English. Scholars have explained the use of the plural “We” in Genesis 1:26 to refer to the singular God as being linguistic in origin.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Menyalak-er,
Remember the song: “Puff the magic dragon”. The more puffs you have the more dragons you’ll see. If you puff long enough, you’ll see dragons coming off UFOs.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 10:34 pm
How strange ! I thought the topic is about an old man who talks too much !?!
Looks like, at the end of the end, religion and GOD matters, whether we want to accept it or not !
We can remove Humans from religion but we can never remove the religion in Humans !
ocho-onda - January 22, 2010 at 10:36 pm
oops, typo – end of the day..
ocho-onda - January 22, 2010 at 10:37 pm
“We” in Genesis 1:26 – Mr. Bean
They were Spacemen who wanted to land in China but found themselves in the desert of the middle east. And thinking the Earth was all desert, they left and never returned. If they had landed in China, they would have stayed on and the Book of Genesis would have been written in Chinese pictographics instead of in Hebrew alphabets.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 10:44 pm
Here have a puff.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 10:52 pm
And these Spacemen came from a solar system called Heaven with 11 planets. And on one of the planets there there are 72 Virgins. Another planet had Hindus, with laws provided their king, Krishna. Only one planet has 3 moons, so their lives is based on the Heavenly Trinity.
In the Heaven solar system, their one day is equivalent to our 6,598 years. Their one year is equal to our 50,000 years (approximately).
If you don’t believe, wait for the next religious trilogy by Steven Spielberg coming in the theatre near you.
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 10:53 pm
Nah, religion was always there, ocho. That ‘old man’ is like that assassin chief somewhere near Bukhara, full of smoking dragons.
He like many eschews ‘organized religion’ and is a wee bit ‘anarchic’ and therefore serves as the ghost in the machine.
Yes, a Karen Armstrong reader and avid researcher on ‘truths’.
Kudo’s to you Zaib, you could have easily fooled me.
In part, the “We” was linguistic – but more importantly, the Judaic faith was initially henotheistic (One Supreme, besides others, a bit like the Amerindians) and morphed into a truly monotheistic one during and after Babylonian captivity (6Cent BCE) and coming into contact with the dualistic Zoroastism (Ahura Mazda/Ahirman). That’s why it persisted in the Psalms up to the minor prophets and the emphasis on asherah Poles and ba’al worship.
The Arabs were also initially henotheist (not polytheistic), with the Supreme God, called being “Allah”, the Moon Deity. Prophet Muhamad understood the timelime of the prophets from his contacts with the Jewish Bedouin tribes in Medina.
Of course, everyone blames the language and transliteration! Dragons and ‘virgin’ princesses eh?
Menyalak-er - January 22, 2010 at 11:05 pm
And here cheers to the Selangor PAS Commissioner Hassan Ali and here’s good health to him without beer
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 11:08 pm
Btw, the Torah is written in Hebrew, but later translated into the Greek ‘Septuagint’ (named after some 70+ scholars in Alexandria, circa 200-300 BCE). Somehow, Greek speaking Matthew got the young woman (almah, in Hebrew) quoted from Is 7:14 mixed up with virgin (parthenos, in Greek Septuagint) – Mary, which continued in the melieu’ of a Hellenized Roman Empire.
No end of woes, and ‘unreality’, over one word(s).
Thanks for that ‘puff’, Bean.
Menyalak-er - January 22, 2010 at 11:21 pm
And if Hassan Ali ever becomes MB of Selangor, Allah forbids, under the UMNO-PAS unity govt, this is what Tean and Selangoreans will suffering:
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Oh yeah! In case PAS and their cohorts in UMNO think of setting up pubs with no beer, here’s why they should just give up the idea.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Here’s what one has had to say after a lot of beer!
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 11:36 pm
If you want someone to speak the truth, give him a lot of beer.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 11:47 pm
Mr Bean
I thought the guy talk a lot of sense about Bush and Osama after all the beer.
UMNO leaders should all drink beer!!!
Frank - January 22, 2010 at 11:49 pm
“UMNO leaders should all drink beer!!!” Frank
Apparently UMNO doesn’t deal with the truth. And they are afraid others will come to know the truth.
Mr Bean - January 22, 2010 at 11:54 pm
(Lyrics of the song goes this way)
Be you Hindu, Muslim or Christian or Jew
No matter by what name your God is known to you
You can fight for religion until you’re red, white and blue
But it is only through peace that the truth can shine through
Osama bin Laden someday you will find
You think you’ll go straight to the Heaven in the sky
God will send you to Hell with a tear in his eye
Go read your Koran and you’ll understand why
Mr Bean - January 23, 2010 at 12:12 am
Dr M’s origin gave him the sly character in him which can play to any audience as he likes. When he is in China he will wear the China man’s hat, plays the Japanese tune when he is in Tokyo and the Malay tone while in UMNO.
He will remove all your virtues with the sleight of his tongue and the manufactured lies if you are not careful. He can get his machais to blue-blacked your eye and than comment that you could have fell down on your own. This is the man in him.
He can conned all of us without us realising it. Look at the billions of rinngit lost in trying to corner the tin market using Maminco as the vehicle ; the multi-billion ringgit loss in the Bank Negara’s forex losses ; the billions of ringgit lost in maintaining Proton car ; the loss of billions of ringgit in rescueing his crony’s and his son’s companies ( Tajuddin Ramli-MAS, Halim Saad-Renong , Mirzan-Konsortium Perkapalan Bhd etc ).
Yet, he could go scot-free despite losing billions of rakyat’s money. He will blame everyone’s else but himself. He blamed
Soros and Bank Negara’s deputy governor for the country’s forex losses and Anwar Ibrahim for the stock market decline and refusal to collaborate in rescueing his son’s and crony’s companies using public funds.
He is an evil man who can twist and turn any situation to his advantage by denying and depriving the public of any information about a project using the OSA and ISA.
mslam - January 23, 2010 at 11:46 am
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/program/291518-1
evolutionarymystic - January 23, 2010 at 2:35 pm
Can anyone recall his comments when Korean Presidents were prosecuted for corruption? That might throw some light on his hidden fears.
Thumb Logic - January 23, 2010 at 9:00 pm
mahatir and paul augustine. they make good pals. both are insidiously evil and engage in any means to justify the ends.
both want thier family to be rich. both sold their souls to the devil to achieve their ultimate aim. one is now super rich and still breathing to continue its destructive ways. one kaput but unfortunately only became a federal court judge minus the vast wealth.
cbc - January 24, 2010 at 12:46 pm
“Dr M: I am not anti-Christian.
“A lot of people in America (the apologists will dismiss them as conspiracy theorists) questioned whether the towers collapsed because the planes crashed into them or that something else caused them to come down.
“These people have reproduced videos taken by media people showing the attack and the collapse of the towers, pointing out certain peculiar features.
“If you have seen the three-hour long video which is widely distributed you would be convince by it.
“People fear of saying anything political on this issue, especially when we are accusing the government of a very powerful country of doing something wrong. Don’t forget they (even) told lies to go to war,” he said.”
What a load of nonsense ! It is not your bark that people find annoying and offensive. It is the timing of your bark that they questioned, or do you not even realised that the view that your are only now echoing, about the conspiracy theory is almost a decade old ???
Whether 911 was indeed a conspiracy or not is not relevant here . What is of relevance is all the stench and putrefaction happening in our own back yard, which you should be more concerned with.
And who are you to be telling other people not to tell lies !?!
If you have any sense of decency left in your old and tired bones, go tell UMNO to stop telling lies and half truths to the Malaysian Rakyat !!!
ocho-onda - January 24, 2010 at 4:10 pm